FYI - there is a "PLAN B" on the Omnibus Liquor Bill that leaves the
growler portion intact while stripping the 2am closing time...
- Al
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"Emily Shively"
<emily.shively@s To: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
enate.mn> cc:
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) SF 143
05/21/2003 03:32
PM
Al,
Thank you for all the encouragement on the Brew Pub bill -- we're
hoping the Governor will sign the bill as is, however, Senator Pappas
has introduced another bill for Special Session that contains all the
provisions in the liquor bill minus the 2am bar closing that the
Governor is hesitating on in case he vetoes the current bill.
Senator Pappas was unable to take you up on your invitation for last
Saturday as she was at the Capitol negotiating the Higher Education
funding bill (busy, busy, busy!). However, she will keep the Sept. 6
event in mind!
Thank you for the invitation!
Emily Shively
> It appears that Pawlenty agreed to sign the liquor bill if the
> legislature
> also included more funding for the State Patrol to beef up the 2-6
> AM shift.
I agree that the State Patrol needs more money (my dad was a trooper for
30 years). However, they have needed money for the past 20 years. This
bill in and of itself should have little impact on their need. It's
funny, because the 0.08 legislation will incur a huge cost to law
enforcement, but no one ever brings that up. My dad always said it's not
the .08 or the .10 guys you're worried about, but the folks that are .27
with 6 DWIs and no license.
Down here in Blue Earth County, they are saying the conceal/carry
registration process will cost more than the maximum fee allowed by the
law ($100). It all looks like a lot of posturing.
In addition, our Gov was wrong when he said this was an issue (the 2 AM
bar time) brought up by two DFL mayors. It was originally presented in
the Senate by Sen Mark Ourada, a Republican from Buffalo. I was at the
hearing. I guess you don't need to have your facts straight when you are
talking to the press.
David Berg
Head Brewer, Bandana Brewery
President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild
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Did someone slip in a line item veto in the Minnesota State Law that I am
not aware of? If he vetoes the bill, he kills everything, including
growlers.
On Wed, 21 May 2003 09:55:05 -0500 jdcotton(a)mmm.com writes:
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> It's not who you know, it's who you are ;-D
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> Here's the response that I got back
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> "P. T. Anderson"
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> "'jdcotton(a)mmm.com'" <jdcotton(a)mmm.com>
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> Subject: RE:
> Growlers
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> 05/21/2003 09:04
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> AM
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> Jeff:
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> The Governor has not said he was going to veto the 2 A.M. bar
> closing
> legislation because of the Growler provision. This is a portion of
> the
> bill
> that would allow bars to be open until 2 A.M. and liquor stores to
> be open
> until 10 P.M. during the week.
>
> The Governor stated early when the legislation was introduced that
> he would
> support the legislation if the bodies of the House and Senate found
> additional funding for police and state patrol expenses due to the
> law
> hange. The State Patrol is very thin for shifts from the 2-6 AM time
> frames. With additional drivers on the road after bar closing we
> need to
> make sure they will be able to protect and serve adequately.
>
> The House and Senate are considering the funding to satisfy the
> Governor.
> Without this funding the Governor will not sign the bill.
>
> Once again, the Growler provision is a small portion of this bill
> and is
> not
> the controversial portion.
>
> Thanks for writing Jeff.
>
> Paul Anderson
> Office of Governor Tim Pawlenty
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David Berg
Head Brewer, Bandana Brewery
President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild
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Here's the response that I got back
----- Forwarded by Jeff D. Cotton/US-Corporate/3M/US on 05/21/2003 09:34 AM
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"P. T. Anderson"
<P.T.Anderson@stat To: "'jdcotton(a)mmm.com'" <jdcotton(a)mmm.com>
e.mn.us> cc:
Subject: RE: Growlers
05/21/2003 09:04
AM
Jeff:
The Governor has not said he was going to veto the 2 A.M. bar closing
legislation because of the Growler provision. This is a portion of the
bill
that would allow bars to be open until 2 A.M. and liquor stores to be open
until 10 P.M. during the week.
The Governor stated early when the legislation was introduced that he would
support the legislation if the bodies of the House and Senate found
additional funding for police and state patrol expenses due to the law
change. The State Patrol is very thin for shifts from the 2-6 AM time
frames. With additional drivers on the road after bar closing we need to
make sure they will be able to protect and serve adequately.
The House and Senate are considering the funding to satisfy the Governor.
Without this funding the Governor will not sign the bill.
Once again, the Growler provision is a small portion of this bill and is
not
the controversial portion.
Thanks for writing Jeff.
Paul Anderson
Office of Governor Tim Pawlenty
I received the same generic response.
No guarantees as to how our emails are being presented (numbers or content).
A phone call should at least get a human response.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Larson [mailto:rick@mnbrewers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:18 AM
To: mba(a)thebarn.com
Subject: Re: Liquor Bill
> > Will this never end? It passed the house, now the Governor is talking
> > about vetoing it. Please send him an email and tell him you support the
> > bill.
> >
> > tim.pawlenty(a)state.mn.us
>
> His phone number is 651-296-2089
I got a reply from my email to the Governor:
------
Thank you for contacting the Office of Governor Tim Pawlenty with your
comments and concerns.
Because of the volume of correspondence we receive, we are not able to
respond to all emails personally. We value your input and will take into
consideration your thoughts or concerns on this particular issue.
If you need immediate attention, please call the Governor's office at (651)
296-3391.
Again, thanks for contacting the Governor's office and feel free to do so
again in the future if you have comments and suggestions.
------
Note the different phone number. Calling might be a better option.
rick
> > Will this never end? It passed the house, now the Governor is talking
> > about vetoing it. Please send him an email and tell him you support the
> > bill.
> >
> > tim.pawlenty(a)state.mn.us
>
> His phone number is 651-296-2089
I got a reply from my email to the Governor:
------
Thank you for contacting the Office of Governor Tim Pawlenty with your
comments and concerns.
Because of the volume of correspondence we receive, we are not able to
respond to all emails personally. We value your input and will take into
consideration your thoughts or concerns on this particular issue.
If you need immediate attention, please call the Governor's office at (651)
296-3391.
Again, thanks for contacting the Governor's office and feel free to do so
again in the future if you have comments and suggestions.
------
Note the different phone number. Calling might be a better option.
rick
> Will this never end? It passed the house, now the Governor is talking
> about vetoing it. Please send him an email and tell him you support the
> bill.
>
> tim.pawlenty(a)state.mn.us
His phone number is 651-296-2089
rick
Will this never end? It passed the house, now the Governor is talking
about vetoing it. Please send him an email and tell him you support the
bill.
tim.pawlenty(a)state.mn.us
This is from the Star Tribune today
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House backs 2 a.m. bar close, but Pawlenty not satisfied
Published May 20, 2003LIQ20
The Legislature overwhelmingly approved a 2 a.m. closing time for bars,
but without the new funding for law enforcement that Gov. Pawlenty
reiterated Monday is a condition of his support.
"If the bill comes in its current form, I'm not going to sign it,"
Pawlenty said after the House voted 93 to 40 and the Senate voted 50 to
16 for Minnesota's first major extension of bar hours in 54 years. "I
will veto it."
Negotiations continued late Monday to find several million dollars to
meet Pawlenty's demand for additional state troopers and police officers
in cities that would be most affected by an hour-later last call.
"It's not dead yet," said Rep. Michael Beard, R-Shakopee, sponsor of the
bill.
Because the bill is already on the governor's desk, the funding would
have to come in other legislation. Pawlenty said he would wait for up to
the three days he has to veto bills before making a decision.
The Republican governor also emphasized that the bar closing initiative
came not from him but from the DFL mayors of Minneapolis and St. Paul.
While both vote margins were enough to override a veto, it is unlikely
that the GOP House majority would risk insulting its own party's governor
over such an issue. House Speaker Steve Sviggum, R-Kenyon, who opposes
the 2 a.m. close, could simply refuse to bring an override vote to the
floor.
The bill also would allow brew pubs to sell carry-out half-gallons of
beer made on their premises and lift state control of the number of
liquor licenses local officials may issue to restaurants, hotels, golf
clubs and bowling alleys.
Conrad deFiebre
David Berg
Head Brewer, Bandana Brewery
President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild
