mba May 2003

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by Dave Cox

A friend of mine just got back from a business trip to Denver. One of his collegues was looking for a beer called "Fat Tire". My friend told this person that he could probably get it for her in MPLS. He Tried Blue Max and Surdyks without success. Any of you beer detectives out there ever see this one? I don't have any info on brewery or even style. My guess is that it was discontinued.

22 years, 7 months

AHA Club-Only Old and Strong Scotch Ales competition - Wed, May 14 RSVP!

by allan.boyce＠usbank.com

OLD AND STRONG SCOTCH ALES (BJCP CAT. 11) May's AHA Club-Only competition is for Old Ales and Strong Scotch Ales. The MhBA will judge our club's representative for this contest on Tuesday, May 14 at my place, 7pm. Bring your Old Ales and Scotch Ales and let's pick a winner! Let me know if you're bringing a beer, and/or can help judge. The entries are due in Tucson, AZ by May 22 COMING UP: EUROPEAN PALE LAGER (BJCP CAT. 2) You'll also want to start brewing NOW, if you haven't already, for August's Club-Only: European Pale Lagers. The MhBA will judge it's club's representative for this contest on Tuesday, July 15. The entries are due in Aurora, CO by July 25 - Al

22 years, 7 months

Re: INter-Club Campout - July 18 & 19

by allan.boyce＠usbank.com

Here's a letter from Bruce at the Cloudy Town brewers regarding the Inter-Club campout. Hopefully it won't be so STORMY at Collinwood this year! If I recall, the styles for the Inter-Club competition are: * California Common * India Pale Ale * Russian Imperial Stout * Varietal Honey Mead The St. Paul Homebrew Club has asked to join the party this year - WELCOME ABOARD! - Al ----- Forwarded by Allan V Boyce/MN/USB on 05/01/2003 10:25 AM ----- LeBlanc <brewski@cloudne To: t.com> cc: Subject: Re: INter-Club Campout 05/01/2003 08:31 AM Hello Al Nice to hear from you again. I've been working and I didn't have a chance until today to read my mail. But I did send this notice out on 4/17 to all the clubs hoping that they spread the word. I will be hosting Big Brew at my house this weekend between my days off so it doesn't look good for me to make to UMMO, sounds like a blast. cheers, Bruce Hello fellow homebrewers, The dates been set and reservations have been made for the 2003 Inter club campout. We have been dragging our feet on releasing the date until final reservations were made and Collinwood park does not reserve spaces until the middle of April.Keep your weekend free on July 18-19th. at Collinwood County Park. We decided to go to Collinwood this year because of its centralized location for the brew clubs and because they welcome us with all our homebrew and homebrewing activities every time. Again we have the same spot in the back as last year but hopefully without all the rain.So once again. What: Inter Club Campout When: Friday and Saturday July 18 + 19th Where: Collinwood County Park, Three miles southwest of Cokato off State Hwy 12 Who: Home brew Clubs of the area or anyone who appreciates good beer Why: because if you brew it, they will come hope to see you-all there! any questions contact Bruce LeBlanc Cloudy Town Brewers brewski(a)cloudnet.com

22 years, 7 months

RE: Newsletter

by allan.boyce＠usbank.com

Mike- You and Gloria have done a fabulous job with the newsletter over the last three years as I believe all of the conversation on this subject has mentioned. It's a big job, thanks for getting it done! But everything can be improved, and I think we've seen many good ideas for making The Boiler even better - not the least of which is all of the people who have volunteered to WRITE ARTICLES for it! (I hope someone has written down all of their names - hint, hint!) Let's get that folder of pre-written but unpublished material over to whoever is taking over the Boiler now, if you still have it. I'm sure some of the articles were not time-sensitive, and can be published when future issues are lean. With that sort of cushion, we should never be in the "content-poor" situation! - Al "Mike Moranz" <mmoranz@net-inf To: "'John Longballa'" <longballa(a)hotmail.com>, mba(a)thebarn.com o.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Newsletter mba-bounce@theba rn.com 04/30/2003 10:33 PM As the "leader" of the newsletter content over the last three years, I would like to say thanks to all those who contributed. I know most of Johns articles were published and if some weren't, yes, there was a space/cost issue, especially when Steve Piatz got the words going. :) I used to have a folder that I stuck stuff in when I thought it might make for good reading. Some of the discussion about this topic could in fact be used. As Will said, someone needs to be the point person. When it came time for publishing, I just grabbed from my folder to fill in between the meeting notes and the info on club events. The whole process took me about 4 total hours over a couple days. If any of you noticed, I even repeated stuff twice! Who knew? Finally, Gloria was sent the Word file and boy did she ever make it look pretty. Thanks again to everyone who has helped and to those who will be helping in the future. Mike Moranz > -----Original Message----- > From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com > [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com]On Behalf Of > John Longballa > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:33 AM > To: mba(a)thebarn.com > Subject: Re: Newsletter > > > > Sounds great! I don't think that anyone proposed cutting off > members who > would prefer to receive a hard copy, or eliminating hard > copies of the > Boiler. My thought was to send out copies to anyone who > wanted/needed one, > and save the costs on those members who opted to receive the > newsletter > electronically. The hard copies ARE great for inspiring new > memberships, > which is why I was placing them in all the homebrew shops. > > As long as most articles will make it in, I think you'll have > good response. > I had articles that I wrote that were not printed because of space > limitations (?), and that can be frustrating, considering > that everyone > always complains that there's never any member writings to > print! I was > writing up descriptions of the meetings, but sometimes they > would not be > printed. Oh, well. > > John > > > > > > >From: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com > >To: mba(a)thebarn.com > >Subject: Re: Newsletter > >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:22:47 -0500 > > > > > > > >I read all the email on TheBarn, and I peruse the website > pretty regularly, > >but I still like getting my hard copy of The Boiler. I also > know that we > >have some members that are NOT internet connected, and for > them, The Boiler > >is really the only tangible evidence that we have a club at > all! I spoke > >with a couple of new members on the I Love Beer Tour this > past weekend, and > >they were internet connected, on TheBarn list, knew where > the web page was, > >and were STILL upset that they have not been informed of > club events via a > >newsletter since they joined last November. A newsletter is > "proof" that > >they were informed. > > > >The copies of The Boiler that I have received have been great. But I > >propose that if there are no articles to publish, then we > should just print > >a one or two page Boiler ON SCHEDULE that has whatever > article(s) that we > >have, plus a listing of upcoming events. > > > >If some members voluntarily agree to get their Boiler > online, whether via a > >PDF file in their email or on the website, then that reduces > cost for the > >club. But I think everyone should make that choice for themselves. > > > >The old saying goes, "If you're not part of the solution, > then you're part > >of the problem." Today I volunteered to write two articles > for the next > >issue. (OK, so I'm an overachiever! ;-D) But if everyone > who has posted > >an opinion on The Boiler takes time to write ONE article a > year, we'll have > >no end of content with which to fill it. Consider it a challenge! > > > >Print it, and they will come.... > > > >my 2 cents... > > > >- Al > > > > > > > > "John Longballa" > > <longballa@hotma To: > mba(a)thebarn.com > > il.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: > Newsletter > > mba-bounce@theba > > rn.com > > > > > > 04/29/2003 10:08 > > AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Will: > >Those are some great ideas. As the former secretary of the > MN Homebrewers, > > > >I distributed the Boiler and thought about those same > cost-saving measures; > > > >at a board meeting, I made the very same suggestions that > you just made, > >but > >for reasons that I do not remember, the decision was made to > continue with > >the traditional distribution method. Perhaps the current board could > >revisit these ideas. The Boiler was costing approximately > $125 per issue > >for printing and mailing costs, just as a point of > reference. I would > >print > >about 150 copies, send 50 to members, send 40 to breweries, brewpubs, > >beverage distributors, and homebrew shops that supported > MNHBA, and place > >the remainder in the Twin Cities' homebrew shops for MNHBA promotion. > >John > > > >Will wrote: > > >2 cost savings ideas: > > > > > >1. Put the Newsletter on the web site (not sure if it > > >is there now) > > >2. Ditribute the newsletter via email instead of snail > > >mail > > >3. Give members the option of not receiving the > > >newsletter via snail mail if they would rather get via > > >option 1 or 2 above. > > > > > >I believe this would not only save postage $$ but also > > >printing expense. > > > > > >As to content, I believe that someone has to take the > > >lead and that you cannot rely on member contributions. > > > > > >It may be helpful to try coming up with an ideal > > >layout and then say: we need an article on wheat beer, > > >we need a an article on bottling methods, and an > > >article on new gadgetry or something like that. This > > >would make it easier for those who wish to provide > > >content. If someone is gung ho to write something on a > > >different topic, they would just need to clear it with > > >the editor. > > > > > >From the perspective of a writer, the hardest thing to > > >some up with sometimes is a topic. So an open ended > > >request such as: we need content can make it more > > >difficult. > > > > > >My $0.02 worth > > > > > >Cheers > > >WH > > >--- Dave Cox <north-shore-brewer(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > I am sure that some of you have wondered when the > > > > next issue of our > > > > newsletter, The Boiler, will be published. I have > > > > heard a certain amount of > > > > discussion about this subject, including whether we > > > > should even publish a > > > > newsletter. > > > > > > > > Some people have made the argument that in view of > > > > our limited budget, and > > > > the fact that a newsletter is expensive to produce > > > > and mail, this is > > > > something that could be eliminated. It has also > > > > been suggested that the > > > > fact that people are not submitting articles > > > > reflects a lack of interest in > > > > the publication. Maybe these things are true. > > > > > > > > I agree that the e-mail list is effective for those > > > > members who have access. > > > > But it does not serve all of our members, and it is > > > > not as effective as a > > > > means of attracting new members. > > > > > > > > I would like to see The Boiler continue. I believe > > > > that it is important not > > > > only for current members, but as a means of letting > > > > potential new members > > > > know what this group is about. It lends credibility > > > > to the organization and > > > > lets others know what we have been doing. > > > > > > > > But here is the catch. If we are to continue to > > > > produce the newsletter, we > > > > need input from YOU. Rick and I could fill up the > > > > space with our own > > > > musings and clever observations, but that wouldn't > > > > do much to increase the > > > > circulation. The thing that makes a newsletter > > > > interesting is variety. Just > > > > as the variety of interests and experience of the > > > > members make MHBA > > > > interesting, the newsletter needs input from a > > > > variety of sources. > > > > > > > > Submissions can range from technical topics to > > > > equipment to beer styles to > > > > events to anything you think other members would > > > > find informative and > > > > interesting. > > > > > > > > Your newsletter editor Gloria does a great job, and > > > > she is waiting for your > > > > articles. If you want to see the project continue, > > > > send her your > > > > submissions now. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. 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