May be a good deal if carboys are suddenly too small? I have a tap
valve that I would gladly sell.
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Subject: Hoff Stevens kegs
Lake Superior Brewing is switching to sankey mods. If anyone would like
to purchase hoff stevens
1/2 barrels please contact us.
thanks,
Don Brewington
I completely agree with the term "Objective" and it should strongly
suggest other words like mean, average, and median.
Subjectively, anyone can add more complexity, bitterness, and gravity to
any beer style. It produces a beer that exceeds guidelines and too
often wins contests.
Objectively, beer contests should be won by the beer most accurately
duplicating the mean values for that defined beverage (SRM, IBU, OG, FG,
Aroma, Lace, etc).
When the last issue of Brew arrived, I anxiously read the IPA article
and was amazed that the beer had one grain; base malt!
Of course, this message is subject to interpretation but it may be worth
considering.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Ruggles
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:32 AM
To: mba(a)thebarn.com
Cc: Steve Fletty
Subject: Re: HOW TO WIN BEER CONTESTS
Steve, Al:
One other thing: be _objective_ about your own beer.
When Malt Boy and I were in Architecture school (a little before Adam
was...) we got grilled all the time. I once had a final project
referred to by a guest Architecture Critic from New York as a "still
born". Ouch!
The reason you get drilled very early in Architecture education is to
teach you to divorce yourself (emotionally) from your work. Once you do
that, you can be your own most demanding critic, and withstand very
aggressive criticism without feeling like you are being personnally
assaulted.
Engineering school doesn't teach this, and it's a shame. _Many_
homebrewers are engineers, and have never had this level of criticism
of their work. That said, judges also have to be aware that very few
can take the abuse that Architects have been trained to endure.
When I'm scoring a beer, the top 4 categories (appearance, smell,
taste, and feel) are all _objective_ observations compared to Classic
Examples. The final section -- Overall Impression -- is where I can
voice my opinion.
My advice to brewers is to focus on the first 4 sections, and the 5th
will take care of itself.
Okay, one more thing... _Most_ contests (and rightly so) judge beers
against their _Classic_ versions. If you want to win contests, you have
to brew _Classic_ beer styles. (Interesting note: with "classics" like
Pilsner Urquell going to hell, has the bar been lowered?)
Andrew
--- Steve Fletty <fletty(a)umn.edu> wrote:
> AMEN, brother!
>
> Entering contests helped me initially because I wasn't involved in
> the clubs and didn't know any other homebrewers, so that gave me some
> impartial feedback.
>
> Joining the club and talking to other brewers is big.
>
> I think you have to have a bit of a thick skin, so when someone says
> beer X had flaw Y, you don't just want to say, "Screw you, Al!", but
> listen to the feedback and then apply that to your brewing process.
>
> By the way, which Steve? The good one, or the evil lambic brewing
> one? ;-)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
> To: mba(a)thebarn.com ; mnbrewers(a)yahoogroups.com ; sphbc(a)sphbc.org
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:44 AM
> Subject: [SPHBC] HOW TO WIN BEER CONTESTS
>
>
>
> A fellow MhBA member just asked me a GREAT question which has
> probably passed through everyone's mind who is reading this email.
> I'm going to reprint it here, along with my answer to it. (Warning:
> This is also a plug to join the next BJCP class, starting Tuesday,
> Aug 30. If you're interested in attending, contact class facilitator
> Gera Exire LaTour at gera_latour(a)hotmail.com )
> ...
>
> Q. I guess my main question is how does one brew a beer, enter
> contests and
> be able to compete with the likes of Curt or Steve? Without showing
> up for
> the tastings, it is hard to know the feedback others are giving
> your beer
> and how to become a better brewer.
>
> A. This was exactly my question, when I was entering one beer, once
> a year,
> in one contest. The answer:
>
> * SHOW UP for the tastings,
> * Try to taste each beer you drink critically - ESPECIALLY yours,
> * Brew more beers,
> * Taste more "classic" beers,
> * Taste other people's homebrewed beers,
> * Enter more contests,
> * Volunteer in more contests,
> * Read more brewing books,
> * Hang out with more brewers,
> * Ask more brewing questions - then
> * LISTEN to the answers and try them in your process.
>
> One specific thing that I can point to as having helped make me a
> better
> brewer was the BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program). The BJCP
> maintains
> the guidelines by which our beers are judged, and the BJCP has
> created a
> class for training and evaluating beer judges. The funny thing
> about that
> class - it fulfills ALL of the advice I gave you in the previous
> paragraph
> in one fell swoop!
>
> * You will taste beers with all of the classic aroma and flavor
> flaws and
> characteristics, and learn how to avoid or control them
>
> * In the course of the 14 week class, you will taste nearly ALL
> classic
> beer styles.
>
> * You will be asked to bring your homebrewed styles on the
> appropriate
> weeks, and taste them against the same commercial styles and other
> homebrewed versions
>
> * There are at least 3 semi-local contests during the class. If you
> would
> pack up some beers and enter them, then bring your scoresheets to
> class,
> you can evaluate those scoresheets with new eyes.
>
> * The class will recommend several books to read before taking the
> exam.
>
> * You will be hanging out with 10-15 other brewers weekly (your
> classmates), as well as visiting the breweries of other "senior"
> brewers in
> the local beer community each week, touring their breweries, and
> having the
> opportunity to pick their brains.
>
> * The class will touch on ALL brewing technical topics, and you'll
> be able
> to ask questions about all of them, as well as offer answers to
> your fellow
> classmates to THEIR questions.
>
> Do you think after learning about all thing beer in order to become
> a
> certified Beer Judge that you will become a better brewer? YOU
> BETCHA!
> That's why guys like me, Steve Piatz, and Kris England try to take
> the
> class every time it comes around You STILL learn something new
> every time!
>
> I know that everyone has a good excuse why they can't take the
> class THIS
> time. Find a way. The first time I took the class my fellow
> classmate was Eric
> Nelson - he drove down from St. Cloud for every class!
>
> The next BJCP class starts Aug 30, and continues for 14 Tuesdays.
> It's not
> the ONLY way to become a better brewer and compete with the likes
> of Curt
> or Steve, but it's a BIG one. Look around at all the brewers who
> are
> winning - they are all also BJCP judges.
>
>
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Congratulations to our new BJCP judges:
Dan Prokosch
Doug Hoverson
Jeff Williamson
Michael Behrendt
Jeff Halvorson
Gera Exire LaTour
A special congratulation to Al Boyce, the newest BJCP Master Judge.
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Cray Inc. 651-605-9049
1340 Mendota Heights Road cell: 651-428-1417
Mendota Heights, MN 55120
Only FOUR MORE DAYS to get your entries registered for the Minnesota State
Fair Homebrew Competition! Entries may be dropped off at either Midwest
Homebrewing or Northern Brewer, and may be shipped to Midwest Homebrewing.
Winners will have their beers and awards displayed in the Creative
Activities building throughout the run of the MN State Fair!
So far, MhBA has 24 entries, SPHBC has 16 - no other MN clubs thus far.
Go to: http://www.mnbrewers.com/events/mnfair/
VOLUNTEER AND JUDGE REGISTRATION is also due by this Friday. We still
need LOTS more judges, stewards and volunteers! A reminder if you are a
BJCP judge - you need to judge at least once every two years to keep your
certification current. Judging will take place entirely on Saturday,
August 20, from 10am to 6pm.
Go to: http://www.mnbrewers.com/events/mnfair/
- Al
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Ok, ok, stop already! :-D
I called for entries for the State Fair Homebrew Competition, and you
responded in spades! You have nearly doubled last year's entries as of
Friday morning! Now we need more JUDGES!
If you are a BJCP judge, or even if you're not and would like to learn,
please sign up to judge on the MNBREWERS website to help us judge all these
beers next Saturday. Lunch will be provided, judging starts at 10am. (Come
a little early.) Details of where the judging will occur are also on the
website.
http://www.mnbrewers.com/events/mnfair/
Let's make this the best State Fair Beer Contest ever!
- Al
Only THREE MORE DAYS to get your entries registered for the Minnesota
State
Fair Homebrew Competition! Entries may be dropped off by Friday at either
Midwest Homebrewing or Northern Brewer, and may be shipped to Midwest
Homebrewing. Winners will have their beers and awards displayed in the
Creative Activities building throughout the run of the MN State Fair!
Go to: http://www.mnbrewers.com/events/mnfair/ for more information.
VOLUNTEER AND JUDGE REGISTRATION is also due by this Friday. We still need
a few more judges, stewards and volunteers! A reminder if you are a BJCP
judge - you need to judge at least once every two years to keep your
certification current. Judging will take place entirely on Saturday,
August
20, from 10am to 6pm, at the Creative Activities building at the Minnesota
State Fairgrounds (prior to the fair opening.) Lunch will be provided.
Go to: http://www.mnbrewers.com/events/mnfair/ for more information.
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From: Steve Fletty fletty(a)umn.edu
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:33:28 -0500
To: Sphbc(a)sphbc.org
Subject: [SPHBC] Fw: GOOSE ISLAND IS PROUD TO DEBUT MATILDA
Sounds like an Orval clone.
If anyone sees this let me know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodney Kibzey" <rjkchicago(a)aol.com>
Subject: GOOSE ISLAND IS PROUD TO DEBUT MATILDA
> FYI...
>
> GOOSE ISLAND IS PROUD TO DEBUT MATILDA
> "Once upon a time in a valley, a beautiful countess lost something
> precious to her in a small pond. Racked with grief, she prayed for its
> return. Very quickly it resurfaced in the most wondrous of ways. After
> her prayers had been answered, she blessed the pond and valley. Later,
> she had an abbey built there. Today they brew beer and while we were
> traveling in Belgium, we stopped in, heard the story, and tried the beer.
> Really GOOD BEER and a GREAT STORY. Of course we wanted to share what
> we'd heard and tasted. Usually we'd do that over beers. This time we
did
> it with a beer. Recreating that experience wasn't easy. It's made with
a
> rare yeast that is very difficult to come by. No other beer we make is
> like this; slightly fruity with a profuse amount of hops, it's great with
> a plate of fresh mussels." -Greg Hall, Brewmaster
>
> Coming soon to the Goose Island Brewpubs and Hopleaf. Four-packs will be
> available at Sam's Wine and Spirits and Whole Foods Market.
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