Wow, a bad review before we even officially open. Ouch
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Wayne,
As far as my comments about Bandana Brewery go, gave it my honest review
as far as the environment goes. I personally do not enjoy listening to
someone howl out the words to a song, particularly new country songs, at
the top of their lungs while I'm trying to enjoy dinner with my
friends. What really baffled us is why they would have have Karaoke on
a Saturday night...
I support brewpubs wherever I can, Town Hall and Barley John's
especially -- I enjoy those places for the environment and the beer. If
they played a type of music I didn't enjoy or it was too loud or the
building was too cold or too hot or in any case, if I found the
environment unappealing, I think I should say so. I understand the beer
isn't ready, and yes, the beer makes about 45% of my overall judgment
[they were serving American Lager] with 25% going to food and 30% to
overall atmosphere.
I understand that Bob, isn't on this mailing list, but I think the
content of my last email will reach him. I believe any business owner
would tell you that he'd rather have a customer say "I'm not going to
give you my patronage because <reason>" rather that never say anything
at all.
We told the hostess that we weren't sticking around because of the
Karaoke. We also asked if they were going to do Karaoke every Saturday
night. She indicated that she wasn't sure.
My friends and I are going to try Bandana Brewing again, we're coming
back when the beer's ready. The environment threw us for a loop being
used to Barley John's, Blue Bricks, and Town Hall.
I'm not writing the place off -- I'm just providing my two cents.
Ryan
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 18:19, Wayne Theuer wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Don't close the place, even before it is pouring that great Dave Berg
> brew. The place needs to create a revenue as soon as it can. Bob, the
> owner, is trying to do that. He has many loyal customers and friends,
> that are flocking to the place supporting him and his lovely wife.
> He is doing something for these loyal people rather than letting them
> just sit there. I (so was the Mid America crew and Damian Mc Conn) was
> there last Monday night for Dave Berg's birthday. The food was great!!
> My hats off to Ben, the cook. I sat and drank mass produced American
> Lager even though it is not my favorite. I wanted to support this
> place and celebrate a very close friends birthday. All the workers and
> the owners closed the place up in celebration too. Bob, the
> owner, wanted me pour 4 mini kegs of Lowenbrau O'fest and I did. The
> owners are great people and plan to make this a place where all people
> are welcome. Great beer, food and service will be the theme at the
> Bandana Brewery!!! A great time is inevitable. Sometimes, we have to
> nurture a starting business or it will die. This one is no different.
> Try to frequent the place, giving Bob & Dave your input on what you
> and your friends want. Please, don't give them bad "press" before they
> have even opened and started brewing. There will be bands playing
> soon, when all 14,000 plus square feet are opened to the public. There
> will be no mass produced American Lagers sold then.
>
> Ryan, I was at U Flecku, in Prague, this past May. The only had one
> beer and polka music but I saw people of all ages, from many different
> countries, from all walks of life and there was always a line to get
> in. I'm sure there is a meaning in there somewhere.
>
> Please, support this place and make your suggestions known but give it
> a chance. We are running out of places to go.
>
> While you are waiting the Bandana to get the good beer flowing, go to
> Sam's Liquor in Mankato and get a few mini-kegs of Lowenbrau O'fest
> for $9.91. Your friends will love it!!!
>
> Merry Christmas to all!!
>
> Cheers,
> Hawkeye
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Sinn" <ryan(a)wizardtechnologies.net>
> To: <mba(a)thebarn.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:52 PM
> Subject: Bad News for the Bandana Brewery
>
> >
> > Speaking of Bandana Brewery -- I went in there on Saturday night
> with a
> > group of about 6 of my friends that live in Mankato.
> >
> > We were going to eat dinner and have a few drinks at Bandana, but
> nobody
> > wanted to stay because they were doing Country Music Karaoke.
> **COUNTRY
> > MUSIC KARAOKE** It also didn't help that the in-house brew wasn't
> going
> > to be done for another couple weeks.
> >
> > So we ate at Grizzly's and then drank at Busters, three blocks away
> from
> > Bandana [where I was stuck consuming Gin & Tonics, due to the poor
> beer
> > selection.]
> >
> > I'm not sure what type of crowd Bandana is attempting to appeal to,
> but
> > it's definitely not the young, college crowd. Which is terribly
> > disappointing because since I started home brewing [ a year and a
> half
> > ago ], I've turned at least two dozen college-aged students in the
> > Mankato area to enjoying the taste of beer, and not so much the
> > quantity.
> >
> > Perhaps, the brutal country music karaoke may only offend a fraction
> of
> > Mankato populous, but it's the fraction I associate with.
> >
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > Ryan Sinn
> > Wizard Technologies
> > Web and Networking Solutions
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > office : 763.783.5721
> > e-mail : ryan(a)wizardtechnologies.net
> > url : http://wizardtechnologies.net/
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > "Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Francis Bacon
> > ----------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
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Tickets on sale now!
-----Original Message-----
From: David H Berg [mailto:bergbrew@juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:20 PM
To: mcbg(a)mncraftbrew.org
Subject: Winterfest
Hey all-
Been kind of quiet lately, getting ready to move down to Mankato. Exciting things are happening for February, though.
What better to fight the chill of winter than the Second Annual Winterfest? I'm really excited about this year's festival because of all the new members we have. With the addition of Summit, Schell's, Herkimer and Green Mill, there may be as many brewers as consumers at this year's event.
Tickets go on sale on December 15th, and may be purchased at Town Hall, Great Waters, or Hops in Eden Prairie. Tickets are $20, cash only (no credit cards or personal checks)
The event will be held Feb 8th 6-9PM at the Hamm Building once again. Looking forward to seeing everyone there!
Cheers!
David Berg
President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild
Head Brewer, Bandana Brewery
http://www.mncraftbrew.org
Speaking of Bandana Brewery -- I went in there on Saturday night with a
group of about 6 of my friends that live in Mankato.
We were going to eat dinner and have a few drinks at Bandana, but nobody
wanted to stay because they were doing Country Music Karaoke. **COUNTRY
MUSIC KARAOKE** It also didn't help that the in-house brew wasn't going
to be done for another couple weeks.
So we ate at Grizzly's and then drank at Busters, three blocks away from
Bandana [where I was stuck consuming Gin & Tonics, due to the poor beer
selection.]
I'm not sure what type of crowd Bandana is attempting to appeal to, but
it's definitely not the young, college crowd. Which is terribly
disappointing because since I started home brewing [ a year and a half
ago ], I've turned at least two dozen college-aged students in the
Mankato area to enjoying the taste of beer, and not so much the
quantity.
Perhaps, the brutal country music karaoke may only offend a fraction of
Mankato populous, but it's the fraction I associate with.
Ryan
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Ryan Sinn
Wizard Technologies
Web and Networking Solutions
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office : 763.783.5721
e-mail : ryan(a)wizardtechnologies.net
url : http://wizardtechnologies.net/
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"Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Francis Bacon
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Remember the Brew-A-Rama?
Current score - 0.
Future score - more
Ok, I know what you're thinking. How in the heck can I make it to a
brew date if the notice comes out the day before? OK then. Here you
go.
On January 11 (before the Summit meeting) the Garden View Brewery will
be brewing up a batch of barley wine. We will attempt to produce 12
gallons of 1.100 biter wort and it will be fermented (in honor of Dave
Berg) with Ringwood Yeast. No, it isn't Dave's culture but it does have
the same name. I can't tell you if it is the single or the dual culture
but thanks to Dave, we are using his exact recipe.
So there you have it. Advanced warning, afternoon meeting, and some old
samples.
Would you show up if I offered new members one of our remaining club
glasses?
Always think about carrots!
Rick O
Greetings Homebrewers, Take me to your Liter?
Rick here with a short message to the members, guests, cooks, brewers,
and helpers that made the 2002 Pot Luck party such a great event!
Words can not adequately describe the awesome table of food that you
provided for the members. A slightly more accurate description would be
60 feet of food and 15 feet of deserts!!! WOW!!
I still have memories of that coconut sauce, 6 or more chilies, vegies,
meat, sausage, kraut, and all of those crock pots. I wonder what the
size is of their circuit breaker? Let us not forget the other end of
the table with those wonderful chocolate truffles, cakes, cookies, more
chocolate. Did I mention that I'm a chocolate fan?
So the last official meeting of 2002 will bring us into 2003. I
mentioned at our last meeting that our club is owned by it's members and
we have a purpose, function and responsibility. Please take a few
moments during the holiday season to consider your contributions to the
club. Following are a few hints.
Contributions: The club doesn't have major expenses but we do spend
money on our web site, CSPS hall, and we have been talking (without
actions) for quite some time about getting new club glasses. Please
ensure your dues are current.
Contributions of content: Every last member knows something worth
sharing with the group. This kind if information makes for interesting
reading on the net and also provides topics and subjects and text to use
in the news letter. We appreciate your contributions but have a hard
time thanking you if no one says anything!
Contributions at meetings: Tips and tricks, bad habits, problems,
wonderful recipes, bad yeast, weird flavors, bad headache, ............
You all have interesting experiences worth sharing and are in a group
of caring brewers. Plan ahead on talking about a subject at a future
meeting.
Purpose: I would like to get back to featuring a technical topic at
each meeting. Subjects should start at the beginning level and can
advance to the advanced level. Regular technical tips will add a real
purpose to the club, provide beginning brewers with more challenges, and
create contributions for future publications!
Function: As 2003 begins, we are looking toward our membership for more
assistance. Assistance will be required to help with meetings, discuss
topics, record events and generally gain confidence with our growing
group of brewing experts.
Charter: The founding members of the MHBA had a simple charter. You
hold office for 2 years maximum. This way, the group always changed,
allowed new members to come forward and allowed older members (like me -
I guess) to help from the sidelines. I would like to return to this
charter and obviously, it takes volunteers.
The only difference between a thought and an idea is the action of
communication. This is similar to the difference between a member and
an active member. We are relying on you to become more actively
involved with your club. I would appreciate your thoughts and ideas via
any communications method except for mental telepathy!
Have a wonderful holiday season and an advanced welcome to 2003. Hope
to see you next meeting at Summit!
Sincerely
Rick Oftel
V.P. MHBA
What I cant understand is why Sherlocks is closing?
>From a bar perspective they have some of the best beer in town and everytime
I go there the bar is pretty packed.
Maybe it was the restaurant part? I know everyone loves their fish and
chips.
I for one am going to sorely miss Sherlocks :(
Kirby Richter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Reese
To: mba(a)thebarn.com
Sent: 12/14/2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Minnesota
What's this about the brewing operation at Sherlock's closing down? I
must have missed it. Can anyone fill me in or send a link to a story?
What about the restaurant?
John Reese
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 10:33, Will Holway wrote:
>
> Having just returned from CA I can second that. I
> always try to support the local guys (both breweries
> and brewpubs). And the beer here is very good.
>
>
> --- David H Berg <bergbrew(a)juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > As I sit here tonight, pondering the demise of yet
> > another Minnesota
> > brewery (let's see, that's Minn Brew, Water Tower,
> > and now
> > Sherlock's...not to mention one not too far out on
> > the horizon), I am
> > depressed.
> >
> > I remember starting here, and hearing everyone speak
> > of the Pacific
> > Northwest. Well folks, I lived there for three
> > years, so you probably
> > aren't going to tell me anything I didn't experience
> > first-hand. I've
> > said it before and I'll say it again---hands down, I
> > would rather drink
> > beer here in Minnesota. You may wish to argue with
> > me, but it is the
> > truth. I hear the ads for Summit, and appreciate
> > them because their
> > point is--imports are not better because they come
> > from somewhere else.
> > Don't miss an opportunity for great beer because
> > it's local. An odd
> > statement, but it seems that is what is happening.
> >
> > Next time you're out, stop by one of the brewpubs.
> > Or buy a six pack of
> > Summit, St Croix, Page, Superior, Gluek, Schell's,
> > Mantorville. Because
> > it will truly be a sad day when locally made beer is
> > brewed in Missouri,
> > or Oregon, or California....
> >
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Hey, my neighboring suburb was starting to seem like the micro-brewing
mecca of Minnesota. I truly was enjoying the diversity of the three
very close but completely unique breweries/restaurants.
There is likely a lesson to be learned here regarding total customer
satisfaction, corporate decision making, and a bit of individual greed
but it is beyond the scope of my knowledge.
I also strongly prefer Minnesota Beer and it is exactly why I order
local beer and brew at home.
Rick O
P.S. I am in the market for a very small single phase pump.
>>> Kirby Richter <KirbyR(a)magenic.com> 12/14/02 11:11AM >>>
What I cant understand is why Sherlocks is closing?
>From a bar perspective they have some of the best beer in town and
everytime
I go there the bar is pretty packed.
Maybe it was the restaurant part? I know everyone loves their fish and
chips.
I for one am going to sorely miss Sherlocks :(
Kirby Richter
I just had dinner there and asked what the reason was - and all I heard was
"Bill has lots of reasons." No clarification. It seems to be a sore point.
Shame. The winter warmer was still available. The food was still great.
I am depressed.
Mark
At 11:11 AM 12/14/02 -0600, Kirby Richter wrote:
>What I cant understand is why Sherlocks is closing?
>
> From a bar perspective they have some of the best beer in town and everytime
>I go there the bar is pretty packed.
>
>Maybe it was the restaurant part? I know everyone loves their fish and
>chips.
>
>I for one am going to sorely miss Sherlocks :(
>
>Kirby Richter
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Reese
>To: mba(a)thebarn.com
>Sent: 12/14/2002 10:41 AM
>Subject: Re: Minnesota
>
>
>What's this about the brewing operation at Sherlock's closing down? I
>must have missed it. Can anyone fill me in or send a link to a story?
>What about the restaurant?
>
>John Reese
>
>On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 10:33, Will Holway wrote:
> >
> > Having just returned from CA I can second that. I
> > always try to support the local guys (both breweries
> > and brewpubs). And the beer here is very good.
> >
> >
> > --- David H Berg <bergbrew(a)juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > As I sit here tonight, pondering the demise of yet
> > > another Minnesota
> > > brewery (let's see, that's Minn Brew, Water Tower,
> > > and now
> > > Sherlock's...not to mention one not too far out on
> > > the horizon), I am
> > > depressed.
> > >
> > > I remember starting here, and hearing everyone speak
> > > of the Pacific
> > > Northwest. Well folks, I lived there for three
> > > years, so you probably
> > > aren't going to tell me anything I didn't experience
> > > first-hand. I've
> > > said it before and I'll say it again---hands down, I
> > > would rather drink
> > > beer here in Minnesota. You may wish to argue with
> > > me, but it is the
> > > truth. I hear the ads for Summit, and appreciate
> > > them because their
> > > point is--imports are not better because they come
> > > from somewhere else.
> > > Don't miss an opportunity for great beer because
> > > it's local. An odd
> > > statement, but it seems that is what is happening.
> > >
> > > Next time you're out, stop by one of the brewpubs.
> > > Or buy a six pack of
> > > Summit, St Croix, Page, Superior, Gluek, Schell's,
> > > Mantorville. Because
> > > it will truly be a sad day when locally made beer is
> > > brewed in Missouri,
> > > or Oregon, or California....
> > >
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