John-
I'm sorry you and Dawn had a bad experience at St.Cloud Granite City. I
have been there 3 or 4 times, and the beer has always been superb. But
that's before the wort-shipping scheme got started. I thought that Bob was
still brewing his own up there, but maybe it's switched over to ready-made
wort now.
- Al
> > Has anybody had any Granite City beer made from the
> >
>mass-produced-wort-shipped-across-state-lines-by-tanker
> > method yet? Is it
> > any good?
John responds:
As I mentioned in an e-mail to this list serve a few weeks ago, my
girlfriend Dawn and I were very disappointed with St. Cloud's Granite City's
beer when we stopped there in June on the way home from the bluegrass
festival. We make a point of seeking out every brewpub on any trip we take
(we're right now hitting about 8 Colorado brewpubs this week!), and have
probably been to 30 in our various adventures. We both concurred that the
beer at Granite City was the worst we had experienced at any brewpub in MN,
CO, WA, WI, ND, or TX. We had never given a brewpub's entire line of beers
a complete thumbs-down before we visited Granite City. Each brewpub had at
least one very good beer (we always get the sampler platter) or had a slew
that were passable. There seemed to be a flaw in each of Granite City's
offerings, and we left much of each sample. There are plenty of brewpubs
that produce only mediocre beers, but this was the first place we had sought
out that didn't even get a grade of 'C.' Perhaps they were just having a
bad hops day?
On the topic of brewpubs, in today's Denver Post it was reported that Oasis
Brewing is closing their Boulder brewpub after New Year's Eve. It has been
in business for 11 years, so apparently, brewpubs aren't safe even in the
best beer state in the Union. Of course, there are five other Boulder
brewpubs, and the town is only 100,000 thirsty consumers strong. Oasis will
continue their brewing and bottling line.
That's all the news from Colorado. Happy Brew Year!
John
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Does anybody know the best place [quality / price / et al] to get a keg
of Summit?
I used to go to house parties about 5+ years ago that had summit kegs...
So I know they exist.
I'd like to drag it along to where ever I end up for new year's so I'm
not stuck on MGD keg like last year. I don't have to worry about most
people drinking it [until the others go dry] because it's 'too bitter'
and 'too dark'.
Thx,
Ryan
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I would imagine it's supposed to be mba-request(a)thebarn.com instead of
reguest....
- Al
"Jim L.
Ellingson" To: "Robert B. Cromer" <bcromer(a)pressenter.com>
<jellings(a)me.umn cc: jellings(a)me.umn.edu, cattelan(a)thebarn.com, mba(a)thebarn.com
.edu> Subject: Re: mba e-mail list
Sent by:
mba-bounce@theba
rn.com
12/25/2002 12:55
PM
Hi Rob,
I'll check into it when I get back into town.
Meanwhile, you could try and re-ad your name.
Note that the system is now "Ecartis", and is
not majordomo.
so send your request to
mba-reguest(a)thebarn.com
Best of Luck, Merry Christmas, Cheers,
Jim
kk> Jim,
> I signed up for the e-mail list for the mn home brewers a month or so
> ago. I have not recieved any e-mails and resigned up again the other
> day. It responded I was already of the distribution list. Can you check
> to see if there is any problems with my getting e-mails? Thanks, Bob
Cromer
>
Hi Rob,
I'll check into it when I get back into town.
Meanwhile, you could try and re-ad your name.
Note that the system is now "Ecartis", and is
not majordomo.
so send your request to
mba-reguest(a)thebarn.com
Best of Luck, Merry Christmas, Cheers,
Jim
kk> Jim,
> I signed up for the e-mail list for the mn home brewers a month or so
> ago. I have not recieved any e-mails and resigned up again the other
> day. It responded I was already of the distribution list. Can you check
> to see if there is any problems with my getting e-mails? Thanks, Bob Cromer
>
By David Hackett
Associated Press
December 20, 2002, 7:30 AM CST
BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Ten years ago, you could walk into many bars in
Bloomington and order a beer made in Germany, Mexico or Australia.
But you couldn't order a beer made in Bloomington.
Those days are long gone.
The city's two microbreweries, Bloomington Brewing Co. and Upland Brewing
Co., now produce thousands of barrels each year. The beer is sold not only in
the brewery's pubs but in bars and restaurants around the city and, in
Upland's case, in stores around the state.
Quantity is being more than matched by quality. This fall, Upland brewmaster
Ed Herrmann put Bloomington on the beer connoisseur's map by winning a gold
medal at the Great American Beer Festival in Denver.
"As awards go, that was as good as it gets," said Herrmann, who won for
Upland's Wheat Ale. "Maybe only a couple of times since 1993 has an Indiana
beer won the gold medal. My head was swollen for about two weeks afterward."
Upland owner Marc Sattinger hopes it is only the beginning. His long-range
goal is for Upland to become a regional brewery, producing 30,000 barrels a
year, 10 times its current production. Upland already is the second-biggest
brewer among 26 in Indiana. It has four full-time employees.
Herrmann said there are big differences between locally brewed beers and
popular national brands such as Budweiser and Miller. One of the chief
differences dates to the end of Prohibition in 1933. When breweries reopened,
there was a shortage of malt barley, so many brewers substituted corn and
rice, which made the beer lighter--a method that continues to this day. By
contrast, locally brewed beers can use as much as four or five times more
grain and seven or eight times more hops than most national brands, Herrmann
said, giving the local beers a "bigger, fuller flavor."
Because they use more of those ingredients, local beers cost about $1 a glass
more than national brews and have more calories. They also have a higher
alcohol content.
Local brewers also use uncommon ingredients. Upland's wheat ale, for example,
contains herbs and spices, including orange peels and coriander.
Floyd Rosenbaum, the brewmaster at Bloomington Brewing, produced a beer last
summer made from watermelon.
Russ Levitt, the city's first brewmaster, said Bloomington is blessed with
talented brewers and natural resources.
"There is no place in the country that has better water for making beer than
Bloomington," he said. "For regular consumption, we think of the water from
Lake Monroe and Griffy Lake as being a little hard. But for making beer, it's
close to perfect."
Copyright (c) 2002, Chicago Tribune
In a message dated 12/24/02 8:49:24 AM Central Standard Time, cristj(a)bsci.com
writes:
> Doesn't Minnesota have a law that restricts the number of chain brewpubs to
> 2, so the choice for the 2nd site is critical, or is that a restrictive law
> we don't have on the books?
I don't think there is a restrictive beer law that ISN'T on the books in
Minnesota...:>(
Hoppy Holidays to all you beer-lovers out there, and thanks for supporting
your local beers!
Karl Bremer
St. Croix Beer
Perusing 340A doesn't seem to indicate any restriction on how many establishments you can have
---------- "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com> writes:
From: "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com>
To: MMoranz(a)CBBURNET.COM, "'bergbrew(a)juno.com'" <bergbrew(a)juno.com>
CC: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com, mba(a)thebarn.com
Subject: RE: RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:48:14 -0500
Dave, Mike et al
Doesn't Minnesota have a law that restricts the number of chain brewpubs to
2, so the choice for the 2nd site is critical, or is that a restrictive law
we don't have on the books?
Maybe it was Wisconsisn that restricts the chain pubs to 2.
Jonathan
> ----------
> From: bergbrew@juno.com[SMTP:bergbrew@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:59 PM
> To: MMoranz(a)CBBURNET.COM
> Cc: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com; mba(a)thebarn.com
> Subject: Re:RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing
>
> >When is someone going to open a brewpub in the Mall of America, or
> >Bloomington, or somewhere in the near south/southeast area of the TC ?
>
>
> A) When the rent comes down
> B) When there is a place with enough traffic to support it
>
> Location, Location, Location
>
>
>
>
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Dave, Mike et al
Doesn't Minnesota have a law that restricts the number of chain brewpubs to
2, so the choice for the 2nd site is critical, or is that a restrictive law
we don't have on the books?
Maybe it was Wisconsisn that restricts the chain pubs to 2.
Jonathan
> ----------
> From: bergbrew@juno.com[SMTP:bergbrew@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:59 PM
> To: MMoranz(a)CBBURNET.COM
> Cc: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com; mba(a)thebarn.com
> Subject: Re:RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing
>
> >When is someone going to open a brewpub in the Mall of America, or
> >Bloomington, or somewhere in the near south/southeast area of the TC ?
>
>
> A) When the rent comes down
> B) When there is a place with enough traffic to support it
>
> Location, Location, Location
>
>
>
>
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