It all depends.........sound familiar?
The main areas of concern with low attenuation are yeast culture, fermenting temperature, and quantity of non-fermentables.
Some cultures finish sweet and others attenuate a little dryer. This is one variable to consider. Could it be that the culture is, say, a 1968 or a Irish style? This could be a normal and typical TG for this culture although a little higher than I prefer.
Temperature and flocculation are two areas that can contribute to high TG. If the temperature is much below 66° some cultures flocculate and drop out of suspension. Fermentation may continue slowly and adding a few degrees and a couple of good swirls may re-engage fermentation. I have had very interesting and similar results using some of the temperamental cultures.
Non fermentable sugars cause heavy body and high TG. What temperature was the grain mashed? Were there large quantities of dextrines added or generated?
I would suggest adding some heat, rousing up the yeast, and re-measuring in one week. If too sweet, boil some hops and water for an hour and add the liquid portion to balance against the excessive sweetness.
Best of luck.
Rick O
>>> "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com> 03/04/02 08:33AM >>>
A friend ran into a few problems on a porter (1.080 SG). He pitched 2 tubes
of yeast (one Wyeast and one White Labs) and it started fermentation well
but stalled out at 1.033. I had him add a little yeast energizer - it
restarted and dropped to 1.028 and still is fermenting very slowly.
70% attenuation should get him down to 1.024 and that still seems sweet.
2 questions:
1) should he be patient and wait, or try more energizer or more yeast or
?????
2) if the yeast have stalled out, what should he do when he bottles? At the
current pace the bottle might eventually charge. Adding priming sugar might
just make a sweeter flat beer.
I read in a winning MHBA recipe adding a little 2024 pilsen yeast at
bottling - is this one possibility, or dangerous with that much available
sugar?
Hi,
We are changing things a bit for the next WestSide
meeting. For starters, the meeting will be at the
WaterTower Brewery,12200 Singletree Lane EDEN PRAIRIE
MN (952) 941-8773. A map can be found at
http://www.qwestdex.com/cgi/search.fcg?mq=Y&from=&listing_id=105022405&head….
Next, the theme will be "Meet te WestSide Brewers".
Damian (Sherlock's Home), Bob (Hops) and Dave (Water
Tower) will all be there to answer brewing questions
etc.
The meeting will be Wednesday, March 20 starting at
7:00 pm.
Hope to see y'all there!
Cheers!
WH
PS Don't be afraid to bring your own homebrew!!
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I would like to know if i can do a single step mash or
do i have to do a multi step for a pilsner
8lb german pilsner
1lb aromatic munich
1lb 40l crystal
0.5 biscuit
will be using tap water (soft)dont know specs taste
good
thank you for any advise
dion
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Erik-
Sorry for not writing back. We have been bombarding our email list fairly
frequently about judging for your contest. I'm not sure exactly who is
Certified in our club, but I will send this out to our list.
C'mon gang! Let's help out March Mashness and go up to St.Cloud next
weekend and judge some beers! It's great to have another contest this
close to home, and we want to do all we can to support it! Email eric at:
heimbrauer(a)mn.astound.net. I'm going up Saturday night and staying over
until Sunday Morning, March 9 & 10. I did it last year, and had a great
time!
- Al
"Erik Nelson"
<heimbrauer(a)mn.as To: "Al Boyce" <alboyce(a)bigfoot.com>
tound.net> cc: "Al Boyce" <aboyce(a)mn.rr.com>
Subject: ??
03/01/2002 02:28
PM
Al,
I don't know if you got my email earlier this week at all. Is it possible
if you ask certified judges to sign up for coming up. I am getting a good
amount of experienced or novice, but for certified there is only Myself,
Andrew Ruggles, Christopher Hadden, and yourself. but for the morning
session, there is only myself and Andrew. but we do have Alex Vigil from
Gluek brewing and he judges at the great american beer festival. We would
like to have 4 groups going at once. I am also entering about 7 beers, so
there are a few I can not judge.
Steve Piatz can not since he is a bos judge on the 23rd
Thanks
Erik Nelson
CHICAGO BEER SOCIETY HOMEBREWERS CALENDAR
March, 2002
For more information about EVERYTHING, including a CBS Membership Form,
see the CBS Web Page, at http://www.chibeer.org/
For more information about our host, check out http://www.gooseisland.com
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OTHER GOOD CALENDARS:
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http://www.cityofchicago.org/SpecialEvents
+------------------------ FEATURED EVENTS -----------------------------+
| Feb 24-Mar 2: REAL ALE FESTIVAL WEEK. |
| Advance tix to all RAF events at http://www.realalefestival.com |
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| Fri Mar 1: REAL ALE FESTIVAL 5:00-11:00PM $12.50/advance $15/door |
| Sat Mar 2: REAL ALE FESTIVAL 11:30AM-4:30PM *** SOLD OUT *** |
| Sat Mar 2: REAL ALE FESTIVAL 6:30PM-11:00PM $12.50/advance $15/door |
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| NOTE CHANGED DATES for Delilah's Barleywine Fest and the Peoria |
| International Beer Fest. |
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REGULAR CBS EVENTS:
Thu Mar 7, Apr 4: CBS THIRST FURSDAY, Goose Island Clybourn. Bring
homebrew! (NORTH/CLYBOURN stop on the CTA Red Line, or ARMITAGE stop on
the CTA Brown/Purple Lines.)
Wed Mar 20, Apr 17: CBS SOCIAL NIGHT, Map Room. $0.50 discount on pints
of one of the area's best selection of American and imported craft
beers. (WESTERN/MILWAUKEE stop on the CTA Blue Line; walk 5 blocks east)
OTHER AREA CLUB MEETINGS AND REPEATING EVENTS:
o Brewers of South Suburbia, First Friday,
http://www.megsinet.net/~bethke/boss/index.html
o Urban Knaves of Grain, Last Thursday, http://hbd.org/ukg
MAP ROOM BELGIAN MONDAYS. Belgian Mondays at Sundown at the Map Room
with $1.00 off Belgian Ales and Snacks featuring Imported Cheeses and
Sausage. The Map Room, 1949 N. Hoyne, Chicago, IL (773) 252-7636
http://www.maproom.com
SPECIAL EVENTS:
Feb 24 - Mar 2, 2002: REAL ALE FESTIVAL, Goose Island Wrigleyville. See
above for list of events, and http://www.realalefestival.com/
Sun Mar 3: *** HURRY - ALMOST SOLD OUT *** Museum of Beer & Brewing
HISTORIC PABST BREWERY & TAVERN TOUR. 2-6 PM. $25 Minimum Donation.
Advance Tickets Only. (414) 444-8763 or (414) 643-0050
TICKETS AVAILABLE AT THE REAL ALE FESTIVAL - Windy City Suds booth.
Wed Mar 6: BREWMASTERS DINNER. Ram Schaumburg, 1901 E. McConner Parkway
off Golf, Schaumburg, IL (847) 517-8791
NEW DATE: Sat Mar 9: BARLEYWINE FEST. Delilah's, 2771 N. Lincoln,
Chicago, IL. This figures to be the biggest and most extravagant yet.
PUBLIC TRANSIT: CTA Brown/Purple line to Diversey, and walk three blocks
west to Lincoln; go left 1/2 block.
NEW DATE: Sat Mar 9: INTERNATIONAL BEER FESTIVAL. Exposition Gardens,
16001 W. Northmoor, Peoria, IL (309) 673-1100 3-10 PM. (309) 673-1100
Sat Mar 9: 7th annual KONA BREWERS FESTIVAL. 2:30-6:30PM, King
Kamehameha's Kona Beach Hotel Luau Grounds, Kailua-Kona, Hawaii. $35
advance, $40 @ door. 808-334-BREW (2739), http://www.konabrewingco.com
Sat Mar 9: BLESSING OF THE BOCK HOMEBREW COMPETITION, Lakefront Brewery,
Milwaukee. (Bock styles only - see web page.) BJCP Sanctioned
competition. ENTER THE HOMEBREW COMPETITON AND GET IN TO THE FEST FOR
JUST $15! More info call the Purple Foot 414-327-2130. Entry forms, etc.
at http://www.milwaukeebeerfest.com
Sun Mar 10: 14th Annual BLESSING OF THE BOCK MILWAUKEE BEER FESTIVAL.
One of the oldest beer festivals in the Midwest restores the ancient
tradition of preists blessing the first springtime brew. Homebrewers are
invited to bring a bottle of their own Bock or specialty brew to be
blessed, along with the commercial brews at the fest. Homebrew
competition winners will be announced at the fest. American-Serb Hall,
5101 Oklahoma Ave. Milwaukee, WI. Noon to 4:30 PM. $30 Door, $25
Advance, $20 6 Tickets or more, $15 homebrew competition entrants. More
fest info, homebrew competition entry forms, map,
http://www.milwaukeebeerfest.com PUBLIC TRANSIT: Amtrak or Greyhound to
Downtown Milwaukee. Catch MCTA Bus #80 6th Street, right outside the bus
or train station, south to Oklahoma Avenue, and transfer to bus #51
Oklahoma Ave west to Serb Hall. Busses #80 and #51 have Sunday service
until late evening. More info, schedules http://www.RideMCTS.com/http://www.amtrak.comhttp://www.greyhound.com
Sun Mar 10: STOUT FEST, Goose Island - Clybourn. (773) 915-0071 PUBLIC
TRANSIT: Red Line to North/Clybourn and walk 2 blocks north along
Clybourn, or Brown/Purple line to Armitage and walk two blocks south
along Sheffield.
Sun Mar 17: ST. PATRICK'S DAY
Sat Mar 23: Urban Knaves of Grain DRUNK MONK CHALLENGE. 2 Brothers
Brewing Co., 30W114 Butterfield Rd, Warrenville, IL. Entries due March 4
- 16. Details, rules, entry forms, judge/steward forms, are all online
now at the UKG web site, at http://hbd.org/ukg/
Apr 3-12: AHA National Homebrew Competition 1st Round Entry Deadline.
Thu Apr 4: CBS FIRST THURSDAY welcomes CHARLIE PAPAZIAN at Goose Island
Clybourn. Walk-in entries to the National Homebrew Competition will be
accepted here.
Fri Apr 5: Charlie Papazian appears at BEER GEAR Homebrew Shop from
11:00-12:30, 7901 W 159th St in Tinley Park, and then nurses his
hangover from last night with lunch at FLOSSMOOR STATION BREWPUB, 1-3PM,
1035 Sterling Ave in Flossmoor. PUBLIC TRANSIT to Flossmoor only: Metra
Electric train to Flossmoor; there is a train leaving Randolph @
Michigan at 12:30 that gets there at 1:14.
Sat Apr 6: BEER BAR TOUR OF MILWAUKEE, sponsored by Homebrew Market.
Details, Call 800-261-2337
Apr 10-13: NATIONAL CRAFT BREWERS CONFERENCE & Brew Expo. Renaissance
Hotel, Cleveland, OH. 303-447-0816 x131
Sat Apr 13: B.O.S.S. CHICAGO CUP CHALLENGE Homebrew Competition. Maple
Tree Inn, Blue Island IL.
Tue Apr 16: FIRESIDE UNIBROUE DINNER with Laurent Gilbert. Fireside
Restaurant, Chicago, IL
Tue Apr 16: DELILAH'S ANCHOR BEER & SPIRITS TASTING. 2771 N. Lincoln,
Chicago, IL. PUBLIC TRANSIT: CTA Brown/Purple line to Diversey, and walk
three blocks west to Lincoln; go left 1/2 block.
Wed Apr 17: 2ND ANNUAL WHISKEYFEST. Featuring beers from Anchor,
Unibroue, Dogfish Head & Victory. 6:30 - 10 PM. Hyatt Regency, Wacker
Dr., Chicago, IL. Advance Tickets Only $65. (800) 610-MALT.
Apr 26-28: NATIONAL HOMEBREW COMPETITION CHICAGO REGION, Rock Bottom
Chicago. Watch this space for details about entry, judging, partying,
etc. Entry forms now in Zymurgy or at http://www.aob.org
CORRECT DATE HERE - Sat May 4: 5th Annual AHA BIG BREW. Plan now to come
and brew; those who did last year for CBS's Big Brew Day had a good
time, and made a whole lot of good beer. 2002 location TBD. (This event
is listed incorrectly on other calendars. May 4 is it.)
Thu Jun 20: HUMULUS LUPULUS BEER TASTING and SUDS SHOW with Whispering
Jeff. 7:00-9:00PM. Jaks Tap, 901 W. Jackson, Chicago, IL
http://www.jakstap.com A real deal at $10.00. Taste beers, sample food,
win raffle prizes. PUBLIC TRANSIT: CTA Blue Line (any train, either
Cermak or Park Forest) to Halsted/UIC. Climb the stairs at the center of
the platform (not the ramps at the ends) to Peoria Street and walk one
block north to Jackson.
Jun 20-22, 2002: AHA National Homebrewers Conference and NHC 2nd Round
Judging, Irving, Texas. http://www.aob.org for complete info.
Jun, 2003: AHA National Homebrewers Conference, CHICAGO IL, sponsored by
CBS, BOSS, and UKG.
----- End of forwarded message from Roger Deschner -----
Greetings all and sorry about the lack of information about the March Meeting. The lack of information is actually on purpose since we did make plans a long time ago but Hansons Homebrew is no longer in business. What is a VP to do; Brew beer?
March includes some interesting events in St. Cloud and is a great opportunity for some "soon to be certified" BJCP judged to wet their whistles. Please Let Eric Nelson know if you can attend, assist, or need more information.
Mike Valentiner has graciously offered to assist with the beer collection for the St. Cloud event and information and a map site were sent out to MBA earlier today.
April 2nd is a fun meeting at Rock Bottom with special guest Charlie P. (you know I would spell it wrong - don't you).
May appears to be a outdoor brew fest at Norther Brewer. Not exactly sure if this will occur but we have not had great success with the all grain brew at the CSPS kitchen for the past few years. The kitchen is ok but the view is quite limited and the length of time required for a full grain batch exceeds the concentration limits of the students - besides, everything at my house now runs on N.G. and my old car finally bit the dust.
So there you have some of it. The Boiler is in the mail and should arrive this week-end or early next week.
On a depressing note, some unwelcome guest visited my brewery. I can't see who they were but I discovered some very excited beers carbonated well beyond safe limits. Not sure what their name is but they seem to be little dinky critters that didn't even leave a little ring around the top.
Now it could be that my problem was with cool temperature causing those slacker yeasts to stop working or it could be that there were some critters that arrived in some grain dust, remained on the lip of a carboy or cornie. I suspect critters since my honey porter ended up at 1.00 TG
Good news is the recent batches worked very well so I believe I am beyond this problem. Brewing, always interesting, challenging, and many opportunities for "growth!!!"
So there you really have it. Take care. Check your mail boxes.
What did you brew last week?
Sincerely,
Rick Oftel
VP MHBA
I've worked it out with Erik Nelson and I'll be accepting entries for
the March Mashness competition in St. Cloud. The drop off point will
be my house and we'll transport them up on Fri, March 8.
Competition details are at:
<http://www.cloudytownbrewers.org/competition/> where you can
register online!
You can drop off entries at my house anytime before Fri, March 8
noon. Give me a heads up to let me know you're coming, but leave
them by the front door if no one is home.
Michael Valentiner
17735 2nd Ave N
Plymouth, MN 55447
763-449-9683
Directions:
- take I-394 west from Mpls,
- go past I-494 to Hwy 101 North (also called Central Ave N),
- at the top off the exit ramp, take a right,
- go past the first stop light and take the next left on to 3rd Ave N,
- take the next left on to 2nd Ave N,
- we're the 4th house down on the left.
Cut and paste this into your browser for a map:
<http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?mapdata=afbX8DbyAod3cHkHBrV427EI0Jyb1i…>
--
Michael Valentiner, Minneapolis, Minnesota
mpv(a)yuck.net
Dear CBSers,
For those of you who did not know this, Di Carlo Armanetti at Route 60 and
Route 45, probably has the best selection of hard to find beers of any store
in the Midwest, and must rank among the best in the country. They carry a
number of beers you can't find at Binny's or Sam's. For anyone vaguely in
the neighborhood, it is definitely well worth the trip.
Ron Extract
