mba December 2003

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by Curt Stock

A demo would be possible. How live do we want to get? Actually filling bottles? Or should we wait for a seperate function. Curt -----Original Message----- From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com on behalf of sweiland(a)usfamily.net Sent: Fri 12/5/2003 4:10 PM To: Rick Oftel Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com Subject: Re: Re: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler Hey Rick, Do you think Curt would be willing to bring a demo. model to the Christmas party next week?? I would really like to be educated on CP bottling. I'd keg more beer for bottling purposes if I had a good CP filler. BTW, St. Pat's in Texas claims to have the "best" CP filler....as do the folks in CA at Beer, Beer and More Beer. I'd rather keep my money local and use local technology if possible.... Curt, maybe Barr Engineering would sponsor a CP filler seminar and help source discount pricing on needed materials?! :) I could ask my wife, Rachada, to call up Doug Barr and see what he thinks!! jesting.... Looking forward to a great party next week. Now, how much beer in my stash do I have for the exchange??!? And how much room in my belly for great club brews and food?!? Cheers, Steve >I think we are all waiting for the CURT STOCK STAINLESS STEEL COUNTERFLOW FILLER PROCUREMENT, MANUFACTURING AND OPERATING SERVICE SEMINAR. > >NO NEED TO BE SHY WITH OUR HINTS AL. > >PS. I would actually start entering contests again if the flavor, carbonation levels, and contest results improved just a wee bit. > >Rick > > > >> <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com> 12/05/03 03:22PM >>> > >Me too, but I'm holding out for the Curt Stock Stainless Steel CPBF >build-it-yourself seminar.... hint, hint.... > >- Al > > > > "Marc Donnelly" > <marc(a)targetadv.c To: mba(a)thebarn.com > om> cc: mdon612 <marc(a)targetadv.com> > Sent by: Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler > mba-bounce@thebar > n.com > > > 12/05/2003 03:01 > PM > > > > > > >I'm in the market to purchase a counter pressure filler. I'm also >looking for suggestions on filler designs and filling tricks? >-marc > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------

21 years, 12 months

RE: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler

by Curt Stock

That sounds like a gtreat idea. In fact I was just filling some bottles Friday and shipped them off to St. Louis. The new filler worked well once again. I will look into the parts list and get something together for the party. Thanks for the reminder. Curt -----Original Message----- From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com on behalf of Rick Oftel Sent: Fri 12/5/2003 3:36 PM To: mba(a)thebarn.com; allan.boyce(a)usbank.com Cc: Subject: Re: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler I think we are all waiting for the CURT STOCK STAINLESS STEEL COUNTERFLOW FILLER PROCUREMENT, MANUFACTURING AND OPERATING SERVICE SEMINAR. NO NEED TO BE SHY WITH OUR HINTS AL. PS. I would actually start entering contests again if the flavor, carbonation levels, and contest results improved just a wee bit. Rick > <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com> 12/05/03 03:22PM >>> Me too, but I'm holding out for the Curt Stock Stainless Steel CPBF build-it-yourself seminar.... hint, hint.... - Al "Marc Donnelly" <marc(a)targetadv.c To: mba(a)thebarn.com om> cc: mdon612 <marc(a)targetadv.com> Sent by: Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler mba-bounce@thebar n.com 12/05/2003 03:01 PM I'm in the market to purchase a counter pressure filler. I'm also looking for suggestions on filler designs and filling tricks? -marc

21 years, 12 months

Re: Labels?

by Steve Piatz

My cheap and easy labels to remove are made by photocopying onto standard weight paper and using one of the washable little kid-type glue sticks on the edges of the label. These typically come off just by holding the bottle under the water tap for a few seconds. The labels aren't fancy but they contain the essential info. Michael Valentiner writes: > > For the xmas party homebrew swap, entries must be labeled, so I've been > wondering what are the "best" bottle labels? My main requirement (swap > or no swap) is something that doesn't have a lot of good adhesive on > the back, so they clean up without too much work. I've gotten some in > the past that just slide off after a brief soaking in water. Something > I can run through my inkjet printer would be good too. Any > recommendations? > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Valentiner, Minneapolis, Minnesota > > -- Steve Piatz piatz(a)cray.com Cray Inc. 651-605-9049 1340 Mendota Heights Road Mendota Heights, MN 55120

21 years, 12 months

YOUNG'S

by dion fortier

Can anyone help me out? I would like to make a beer like YOUNG'S Double Chocolate stout. I have looked on BYO and see some beers with chocolate but have not tried any of them, I also have clone brews by Tess and Mark Szamatulski and the joy of home brewing (Papazian). Thank you for any help. Dion Fortier ===== from none other than the man DION M FORTIER __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/

22 years

Re: Re: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler

by sweiland＠usfamily.net

Hey Rick, Do you think Curt would be willing to bring a demo. model to the Christmas party next week?? I would really like to be educated on CP bottling. I'd keg more beer for bottling purposes if I had a good CP filler. BTW, St. Pat's in Texas claims to have the "best" CP filler....as do the folks in CA at Beer, Beer and More Beer. I'd rather keep my money local and use local technology if possible.... Curt, maybe Barr Engineering would sponsor a CP filler seminar and help source discount pricing on needed materials?! :) I could ask my wife, Rachada, to call up Doug Barr and see what he thinks!! jesting.... Looking forward to a great party next week. Now, how much beer in my stash do I have for the exchange??!? And how much room in my belly for great club brews and food?!? Cheers, Steve >I think we are all waiting for the CURT STOCK STAINLESS STEEL COUNTERFLOW FILLER PROCUREMENT, MANUFACTURING AND OPERATING SERVICE SEMINAR. > >NO NEED TO BE SHY WITH OUR HINTS AL. > >PS. I would actually start entering contests again if the flavor, carbonation levels, and contest results improved just a wee bit. > >Rick > > > >> <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com> 12/05/03 03:22PM >>> > >Me too, but I'm holding out for the Curt Stock Stainless Steel CPBF >build-it-yourself seminar.... hint, hint.... > >- Al > > > > "Marc Donnelly" > <marc(a)targetadv.c To: mba(a)thebarn.com > om> cc: mdon612 <marc(a)targetadv.com> > Sent by: Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler > mba-bounce@thebar > n.com > > > 12/05/2003 03:01 > PM > > > > > > >I'm in the market to purchase a counter pressure filler. I'm also >looking for suggestions on filler designs and filling tricks? >-marc > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------

22 years

Re: Winter 2004 BJCP class starting in January 2004 - 2ND CALL FOR CL ASS MEMBERS

by allan.boyce＠usbank.com

What's a CL ASS member?? ;-D "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com> To: "'mnbrewers(a)yahoogroups.com'" <mnbrewers(a)yahoogroups.com>, Sent by: "'mba(a)thebarn.com'" <mba(a)thebarn.com>, "'sphbc(a)sphbc.com'" <sphbc(a)sphbc.com> mba-bounce@thebar cc: n.com Subject: Winter 2004 BJCP class starting in January 2004 - 2ND CALL FOR CL ASS MEMBERS 12/05/2003 04:37 PM The Minnesota Home Brewers Association will again be offering the Beer Judge Certification Program classes this coming winter. If you are interested in taking the course please send me an e-mail at cristj(a)bsci.com <cristj(a)bsci.com> . The class consists of 14 consecutive Thursdays, from 6-10pm starting January 8th. The BJCP exam is scheduled for Saturday April 17th. Each week we discuss and learn about a specific technical brewing topic, as well as taste and discuss specific beer styles, both commercial "classic" examples of the style as well as homebrewed examples. Each week we will be judging at least one beer, complete with scoresheets, to improve our judging and feedback abilities. The proposed schedule is below. Locations for the classes will rotate around the Twin Cities, hosted by several of the club members. The winter class will run much the same as the fall classes: 1) class size will be limited to 12 to ensure we can fit in all the host houses and for better class interaction 2) the cost for the class will be $50 for first timers and $30 for people who have taken the BJCP exam before. The cost is to be paid by the 3rd class and is non-refundable. PLEASE UNDERSTAND what this money covers and why we ask you to pay in advance: a) this is the exam fee for the April BJCP exam - you won't have to pay it again later. b) if you pay your fee in advance (non-refundable) you will be more committed to studying and taking the exam. 3) Drop-ins are welcome (as long as we have space available) - if possible, please let me or the host know you will be coming. Please bring a 6-pack of the weekly style to share with the class. Homebrew is highly encouraged. The course schedule is organized much the same as the fall session, with the technical topics somewhat in the order of a brew session and the styles, where possible, from lighter to darker. Two of the early styles, fruit/vege/spiced beers and ciders, are placed early because they are not on the exam. Meads are also not on the exam but were scheduled to coincide with an upcoming club only competition. The second Doctored Beer session will be different from the first session in that the flavors will be at the threshold level and the focus will be on how/what do you tell the brewer to fix. Each class will be broken down into 3 (or 4) parts: 30 mins: Judge a beer, score it, then discuss it. 45-60 mins: Technical Topic 15-30 mins: Quizzes - not every week, but be prepared! 60+ mins: Beer Styles - sample and discuss the weekly style of beer This fall about 8 people are taking the class and scheduled to take the exam in December. I'm sure everyone in the class would agree that not only did they learn about beer judging, but they also became better brewers. We always have a lot of fun! If you want to learn about beer and brewing - come join us! Jonathan 2004 MINNESOTA HOME BREWERS ASSOCIATION BEER JUDGE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM CLASSES WK DATE TOPIC STYLE 1. 8 Jan Doctored Beer Seminar Technical Topic: Flavors and Aromas Researcher: Jonathan Crist 2 15 Jan Light Ale, Fruit, Spice, Herb, Vege Ale 3, 21, 22, 24 Technical Topic: Sanitation 3 22 Jan Cider 26 Technical Topic: Water 4 29 Jan Light Lagers 1, 2 Technical Topic: Malt - from the husk to the brewer 5 5 Feb Amber and Dark Lagers 9, 13, 14 Technical Topic: Mashing - from the brewer to beer 6 12 Feb Bitters and Pale Ales 4, 6, 7 Technical Topic: Hops 7 19 Feb Brown, Scottish, Strong Scotch Ale 5, 10, 11b Technical Topic: Yeast 8 26 Feb German Ale, Wheat Beer, Rauch bier 8, 17, 23 Technical Topic: Adjuncts and Packaging 9 4 Mar Other Belgian Ales 19a-b, 20 Technical Topic: Troubleshooting 10 11 Mar Strong Belgian and French Ales 18, 19c-e Technical Topic: Brewing Procedures - boil onward 11 18 Mar Meads 25 Technical Topic: Recipe Formulation Club Only: Mead, due in April 12 25 Mar Stout and Porters 12c, 15, 16 Technical Topic: BJCP Knowledge 13 1 Apr Barleywines and Old Ales 11a, 12a-b Technical Topic: Doctored Beer II 14 8 Apr or Study Session: Q & A 15 Apr 15 17 Apr BJCP EXAM !!!

22 years

Winter 2004 BJCP class starting in January 2004 - 2ND CALL FOR CL ASS MEMBERS

by Crist, Jonathan

The Minnesota Home Brewers Association will again be offering the Beer Judge Certification Program classes this coming winter. If you are interested in taking the course please send me an e-mail at cristj(a)bsci.com <cristj(a)bsci.com> . The class consists of 14 consecutive Thursdays, from 6-10pm starting January 8th. The BJCP exam is scheduled for Saturday April 17th. Each week we discuss and learn about a specific technical brewing topic, as well as taste and discuss specific beer styles, both commercial "classic" examples of the style as well as homebrewed examples. Each week we will be judging at least one beer, complete with scoresheets, to improve our judging and feedback abilities. The proposed schedule is below. Locations for the classes will rotate around the Twin Cities, hosted by several of the club members. The winter class will run much the same as the fall classes: 1) class size will be limited to 12 to ensure we can fit in all the host houses and for better class interaction 2) the cost for the class will be $50 for first timers and $30 for people who have taken the BJCP exam before. The cost is to be paid by the 3rd class and is non-refundable. PLEASE UNDERSTAND what this money covers and why we ask you to pay in advance: a) this is the exam fee for the April BJCP exam - you won't have to pay it again later. b) if you pay your fee in advance (non-refundable) you will be more committed to studying and taking the exam. 3) Drop-ins are welcome (as long as we have space available) - if possible, please let me or the host know you will be coming. Please bring a 6-pack of the weekly style to share with the class. Homebrew is highly encouraged. The course schedule is organized much the same as the fall session, with the technical topics somewhat in the order of a brew session and the styles, where possible, from lighter to darker. Two of the early styles, fruit/vege/spiced beers and ciders, are placed early because they are not on the exam. Meads are also not on the exam but were scheduled to coincide with an upcoming club only competition. The second Doctored Beer session will be different from the first session in that the flavors will be at the threshold level and the focus will be on how/what do you tell the brewer to fix. Each class will be broken down into 3 (or 4) parts: 30 mins: Judge a beer, score it, then discuss it. 45-60 mins: Technical Topic 15-30 mins: Quizzes - not every week, but be prepared! 60+ mins: Beer Styles - sample and discuss the weekly style of beer This fall about 8 people are taking the class and scheduled to take the exam in December. I'm sure everyone in the class would agree that not only did they learn about beer judging, but they also became better brewers. We always have a lot of fun! If you want to learn about beer and brewing - come join us! Jonathan 2004 MINNESOTA HOME BREWERS ASSOCIATION BEER JUDGE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM CLASSES WK DATE TOPIC STYLE 1. 8 Jan Doctored Beer Seminar Technical Topic: Flavors and Aromas Researcher: Jonathan Crist 2 15 Jan Light Ale, Fruit, Spice, Herb, Vege Ale 3, 21, 22, 24 Technical Topic: Sanitation 3 22 Jan Cider 26 Technical Topic: Water 4 29 Jan Light Lagers 1, 2 Technical Topic: Malt - from the husk to the brewer 5 5 Feb Amber and Dark Lagers 9, 13, 14 Technical Topic: Mashing - from the brewer to beer 6 12 Feb Bitters and Pale Ales 4, 6, 7 Technical Topic: Hops 7 19 Feb Brown, Scottish, Strong Scotch Ale 5, 10, 11b Technical Topic: Yeast 8 26 Feb German Ale, Wheat Beer, Rauch bier 8, 17, 23 Technical Topic: Adjuncts and Packaging 9 4 Mar Other Belgian Ales 19a-b, 20 Technical Topic: Troubleshooting 10 11 Mar Strong Belgian and French Ales 18, 19c-e Technical Topic: Brewing Procedures - boil onward 11 18 Mar Meads 25 Technical Topic: Recipe Formulation Club Only: Mead, due in April 12 25 Mar Stout and Porters 12c, 15, 16 Technical Topic: BJCP Knowledge 13 1 Apr Barleywines and Old Ales 11a, 12a-b Technical Topic: Doctored Beer II 14 8 Apr or Study Session: Q & A 15 Apr 15 17 Apr BJCP EXAM !!!

22 years

Re: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler

by Rick Oftel

I think we are all waiting for the CURT STOCK STAINLESS STEEL COUNTERFLOW FILLER PROCUREMENT, MANUFACTURING AND OPERATING SERVICE SEMINAR. NO NEED TO BE SHY WITH OUR HINTS AL. PS. I would actually start entering contests again if the flavor, carbonation levels, and contest results improved just a wee bit. Rick > <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com> 12/05/03 03:22PM >>> Me too, but I'm holding out for the Curt Stock Stainless Steel CPBF build-it-yourself seminar.... hint, hint.... - Al "Marc Donnelly" <marc(a)targetadv.c To: mba(a)thebarn.com om> cc: mdon612 <marc(a)targetadv.com> Sent by: Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler mba-bounce@thebar n.com 12/05/2003 03:01 PM I'm in the market to purchase a counter pressure filler. I'm also looking for suggestions on filler designs and filling tricks? -marc

22 years

RE: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler

by Crist, Jonathan

Curt did sign up to host week 8 of the BJCP class which just happens to include PACKAGING as a topic -----Original Message----- From: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com [mailto:allan.boyce@usbank.com] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:22 PM To: Marc Donnelly Cc: mdon612; mba(a)thebarn.com; mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com Subject: Re: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler Me too, but I'm holding out for the Curt Stock Stainless Steel CPBF build-it-yourself seminar.... hint, hint.... - Al "Marc Donnelly" <marc(a)targetadv.c To: mba(a)thebarn.com om> cc: mdon612 <marc(a)targetadv.com> Sent by: Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler mba-bounce@thebar n.com 12/05/2003 03:01 PM I'm in the market to purchase a counter pressure filler. I'm also looking for suggestions on filler designs and filling tricks? -marc

22 years

Re: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler

by allan.boyce＠usbank.com

Me too, but I'm holding out for the Curt Stock Stainless Steel CPBF build-it-yourself seminar.... hint, hint.... - Al "Marc Donnelly" <marc(a)targetadv.c To: mba(a)thebarn.com om> cc: mdon612 <marc(a)targetadv.com> Sent by: Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler mba-bounce@thebar n.com 12/05/2003 03:01 PM I'm in the market to purchase a counter pressure filler. I'm also looking for suggestions on filler designs and filling tricks? -marc

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