Roger writes:
> I've harped on this issue before, but we really are getting a lot of
> SPAM on this list now. I know that there has been a lot of effort to add
> SpamAssasin, but from the results in my mailbox, I must say that has
I use spamassassin too and don't recall seeing anything cr*p from the
list. In fact, I rarely see spam in my mailbox.
If you use unix/procmail I can show you how I have spamassassin configured.
Also, I know of a spam scrubber for POP3 mail if that is your bag.
rick
I have uploaded the latest stuff on the MhBA Road trip to the AHA
Conference June 18-22, 2003 to the Discussion forum on Yahoo. You can find
it at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mnbrewers/files/AHA_ROAD_TRIP.TXT
>From here on, I won't send the whole thing to the mailing list any more - I
will just refer everyone to check out this file. We have eight people with
their deposit in for the bus so far, and three people have reserved rooms
with the Holiday Inn. Reminder that the date for getting your deposits in
for the bus ($150 - to "MHBA") is this Saturday, Feb 1, at the club
meeting. If you're not going to be there, mail it to me and I'll get it in
for you.
It's shaping up to be a fun time!
- Al
Sorry Roger for the inconvenience. At this point your request sound
like a great idea although I have no idea how to accomplish that task.
I will ask some of my best people to start working on a solution as per
your proposal. This is all I can do for now.
Rick Oftel
>>> Roger Deschner <rogerd(a)uic.edu> 01/31/03 01:05PM >>>
I've harped on this issue before, but we really are getting a lot of
SPAM on this list now. I know that there has been a lot of effort to
add
SpamAssasin, but from the results in my mailbox, I must say that has
been ineffective. This is the only list of which I am a member that
has
any SPAM on it at all - and we've got at least one daily. Just now we
had
the one selling pirated Norton software.
There is a much simpler solution: Only accept postings from list
members. Now that spam filtering has proven inadequate, could we do
that
please?
--Roger Deschner
I've harped on this issue before, but we really are getting a lot of
SPAM on this list now. I know that there has been a lot of effort to add
SpamAssasin, but from the results in my mailbox, I must say that has
been ineffective. This is the only list of which I am a member that has
any SPAM on it at all - and we've got at least one daily. Just now we had
the one selling pirated Norton software.
There is a much simpler solution: Only accept postings from list
members. Now that spam filtering has proven inadequate, could we do that
please?
--Roger Deschner
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Jonathan, Very interesting point. Initially, I observed some
similarities to your results and did try a few "side by side"
comparisons. What I found in early cases was the Whitelabs seemed to
take off more rapidly and finish more quickly.
Then I started tracking the time in storage between yeast packaging and
the innoculation of my starter. I discovered the stored Whitelab yeast
culture seem to loose potency faster than smack packs. I concluded it
is not practical to rely on liquid yeast that has been in a package for
more than 2 months. After discarding old yeast and purchasing fresh
clutures, my starters start faster and my beer takes off very well and
seems to finish at appropriate gravity levels.
I have noticed some differences between the "similar" cultures and over
the years have made notes on repeated recipes. OK, it is a low tech
thing to use but results count. An example is the Bohemian Pils I
served last week. The 2206 culture may be wrong for the style but I
have had excellent results with clarification. It was a 2 week old
smack pack stepped up to a liter and then 3. The starter was equally
divided into two carboys of bitter wort. Fermentation started in 6
hours and by the next morning, fermenting temperature had reached 52°.
I am personally not able to taste the difference between the actual
recommended yeast and my choice but visually, when I brew a light
colored pilsner, the beer looks much nicer if it is clear.
For almost all brewing, I have returned to Wyeast small smack packs due
to their functionality and low cost. I especially appreciate Midwest's
practice to order the yeasts they don't normally stock.
Add a column to your experiment and include the production date or the
best by date. There may be a little confusion between the way those
guys date their products but remember, it is an experiment.
My Nickel
Rick O
>>> "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com> 01/29/03 09:09AM >>>
has anyone tried side by side recipes, or at least repeated the same
recipe,
and compared Wyeast to White Labs?
Recently I started brewing recipes with White Labs yeast that I've
repeated
several times before with Wyeast and I've noticed differences in how
quickly
(or slowly) they ferment but I don't know if it is just my luck, system
or
recipes.
1) starter solutions seem to take longer to step up. I like to step
the
starter up a few times, pouring off the "beer", to gather lots of
yeast.
With the same basic sterile wort solution and fresh yeast the White
Labs
seems to take long to complete the cycle and drop out. Some varieties
(pilsner) don't drop well at all.
2) the initial fermentation (both starters and real recipes) seem to
start
faster with White Labs which is a good thing. I often see good activity
in
less than 6 hours.
3) fermentations seem to take much longer to complete As I repeat
recipes
that I have made several times before with Wyeast I can see a
significant
difference (days) in time to complete fermentation with the White
Labs.
Aeration, yeast nutrient, recipe, starting gravity, temperature - all
as
close to the same as I can control.
As I think back to the first few recipes I tried with White Labs I do
remember having to be very patient while waiting for the fermentation
to
complete, but I didn't have anything with which to compare. Somewhat
like
watching a kettle boil.
If anyone else has experience with switch between yeast brands on a
recipe,
or other suggestions I'd appreciate the response. The faster start and
the
slower finish is what really has be confused.
Since this is working out to be such a great basis for an experiment I
think
I will try the next step. One of my next brews I will try a side by
side
comparison. I will make starter solutions from each brand and split a
batch
to really compare differences (including taste) from what should be
the
same.
Thanks
Jonathan
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!
Ok, what's Rick up to again? Is he trying to encourage members to
attend yet another boring club meeting at the CSPS hall on Saturday
afternoon? Is there a hidden addenda? Will you be nominated to a new
committee without needing to attend? What type of beer will be served?
What about the state of the (burton) union address? When will he stop
asking questions; right now thanks.
As the club enters 2003, we have some exciting events on the horizon.
We are tasked with trying to help new brewers get quickly up to speed in
their kitchens, basements, or garages. We have a vast resource of
tenured brewers and all we need to do is to get them to start discussing
and sharing their successes and failures. After they start talking, it
can become a challenge to get them to stop but let's focus on getting
them started.
We need your input and suggestions to assist in determining future
meeting locations, topics for discussion and presentation, and we still
need to hear about those weird but fun ideas (within reason ok?).
Remember the hidden addenda and being nominated to a committee idea?
Well, it could happen to you if you don't attend.
This is a drill of the emergency brewing information service and
instructions follow: Stop by the CSPS hall this Saturday afternoon
around 1:00. Bring your ideas, thoughts, and a cold one. Share your
ideas and thoughts, vote for new officers, and pass me a beer!
Rick O
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