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by Jim L. Ellingson

Hi Rob, I'll check into it when I get back into town. Meanwhile, you could try and re-ad your name. Note that the system is now "Ecartis", and is not majordomo. so send your request to mba-reguest(a)thebarn.com Best of Luck, Merry Christmas, Cheers, Jim kk> Jim, > I signed up for the e-mail list for the mn home brewers a month or so > ago. I have not recieved any e-mails and resigned up again the other > day. It responded I was already of the distribution list. Can you check > to see if there is any problems with my getting e-mails? Thanks, Bob Cromer >

22 years, 11 months

for those who don't read the Tribune

by David Persenaire

By David Hackett Associated Press December 20, 2002, 7:30 AM CST BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Ten years ago, you could walk into many bars in Bloomington and order a beer made in Germany, Mexico or Australia. But you couldn't order a beer made in Bloomington. Those days are long gone. The city's two microbreweries, Bloomington Brewing Co. and Upland Brewing Co., now produce thousands of barrels each year. The beer is sold not only in the brewery's pubs but in bars and restaurants around the city and, in Upland's case, in stores around the state. Quantity is being more than matched by quality. This fall, Upland brewmaster Ed Herrmann put Bloomington on the beer connoisseur's map by winning a gold medal at the Great American Beer Festival in Denver. "As awards go, that was as good as it gets," said Herrmann, who won for Upland's Wheat Ale. "Maybe only a couple of times since 1993 has an Indiana beer won the gold medal. My head was swollen for about two weeks afterward." Upland owner Marc Sattinger hopes it is only the beginning. His long-range goal is for Upland to become a regional brewery, producing 30,000 barrels a year, 10 times its current production. Upland already is the second-biggest brewer among 26 in Indiana. It has four full-time employees. Herrmann said there are big differences between locally brewed beers and popular national brands such as Budweiser and Miller. One of the chief differences dates to the end of Prohibition in 1933. When breweries reopened, there was a shortage of malt barley, so many brewers substituted corn and rice, which made the beer lighter--a method that continues to this day. By contrast, locally brewed beers can use as much as four or five times more grain and seven or eight times more hops than most national brands, Herrmann said, giving the local beers a "bigger, fuller flavor." Because they use more of those ingredients, local beers cost about $1 a glass more than national brews and have more calories. They also have a higher alcohol content. Local brewers also use uncommon ingredients. Upland's wheat ale, for example, contains herbs and spices, including orange peels and coriander. Floyd Rosenbaum, the brewmaster at Bloomington Brewing, produced a beer last summer made from watermelon. Russ Levitt, the city's first brewmaster, said Bloomington is blessed with talented brewers and natural resources. "There is no place in the country that has better water for making beer than Bloomington," he said. "For regular consumption, we think of the water from Lake Monroe and Griffy Lake as being a little hard. But for making beer, it's close to perfect." Copyright (c) 2002, Chicago Tribune

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Re: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by SAINTCROIX＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/24/02 8:49:24 AM Central Standard Time, cristj(a)bsci.com writes: > Doesn't Minnesota have a law that restricts the number of chain brewpubs to > 2, so the choice for the 2nd site is critical, or is that a restrictive law > we don't have on the books? I don't think there is a restrictive beer law that ISN'T on the books in Minnesota...:>( Hoppy Holidays to all you beer-lovers out there, and thanks for supporting your local beers! Karl Bremer St. Croix Beer

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Re:RE: RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by bergbrew＠juno.com

Perusing 340A doesn't seem to indicate any restriction on how many establishments you can have ---------- "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com> writes: From: "Crist, Jonathan" <cristj(a)bsci.com> To: MMoranz(a)CBBURNET.COM, "'bergbrew(a)juno.com'" <bergbrew(a)juno.com> CC: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com, mba(a)thebarn.com Subject: RE: RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:48:14 -0500 Dave, Mike et al Doesn't Minnesota have a law that restricts the number of chain brewpubs to 2, so the choice for the 2nd site is critical, or is that a restrictive law we don't have on the books? Maybe it was Wisconsisn that restricts the chain pubs to 2. Jonathan > ---------- > From: bergbrew@juno.com[SMTP:bergbrew@juno.com] > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:59 PM > To: MMoranz(a)CBBURNET.COM > Cc: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com; mba(a)thebarn.com > Subject: Re:RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing > > >When is someone going to open a brewpub in the Mall of America, or > >Bloomington, or somewhere in the near south/southeast area of the TC ? > > > A) When the rent comes down > B) When there is a place with enough traffic to support it > > Location, Location, Location > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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RE: RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by Crist, Jonathan

Dave, Mike et al Doesn't Minnesota have a law that restricts the number of chain brewpubs to 2, so the choice for the 2nd site is critical, or is that a restrictive law we don't have on the books? Maybe it was Wisconsisn that restricts the chain pubs to 2. Jonathan > ---------- > From: bergbrew@juno.com[SMTP:bergbrew@juno.com] > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:59 PM > To: MMoranz(a)CBBURNET.COM > Cc: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com; mba(a)thebarn.com > Subject: Re:RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing > > >When is someone going to open a brewpub in the Mall of America, or > >Bloomington, or somewhere in the near south/southeast area of the TC ? > > > A) When the rent comes down > B) When there is a place with enough traffic to support it > > Location, Location, Location > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > >

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Re:RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by bergbrew＠juno.com

>When is someone going to open a brewpub in the Mall of America, or >Bloomington, or somewhere in the near south/southeast area of the TC ? A) When the rent comes down B) When there is a place with enough traffic to support it Location, Location, Location ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

22 years, 11 months

RE: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by Moranz, Mike

I've had their IPA. It was at the end of a day of "tasting" at the Hoppy Halloween in Fargo so I'm probably not the best to give it a rating. The Fargo folks go there often, seem to like it, and have some kind of mug club. They get a big mug for 2 or 2 fifty anytime. The beer is fermented on site and I would guess that from a brewers standpoint, it may be a little "unfulfilling". The food menu had some interesting items not seen at your everyday sports bar and the prices were reasonable. The service for our table of 15-20 was fine and they were busy. When is someone going to open a brewpub in the Mall of America, or Bloomington, or somewhere in the near south/southeast area of the TC ? Mike Moranz, President Minnesota Home Brewers Association > > Has anybody had any Granite City beer made from the > mass-produced-wort-shipped-across-state-lines-by-tanker > method yet? Is it > any good? I'm guessing if Sherlock's went to that method of > brewing, the > 'built in customer base' would soon notice the difference > from the Quality > beer that Damien makes there now. And I'm not sure that > Damien, being the > skilled brewer he is, would want to stick around to "add > yeast and stir". > > FWIW > > - Al > > > > > "Will Holway" > > <brew987(a)yahoo.c To: "Marc > Donnelly" <marc(a)targetadv.com>, mba(a)thebarn.com > om> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: > Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing > mba-bounce@theba > > rn.com > > > > > > 12/23/2002 01:26 > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand why he doesn't just turn Sherlock's > into a Granite City if that is his aim. There is a > built in customer base and a brewer. > > > --- Marc Donnelly <marc(a)targetadv.com> wrote: > > Isn't this Bill's venture? hum... > > > > > > --------------- > > from: > > > http://twincities.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2002/12/23/ > > > > story7.html > > > > > > > > Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing > > Andrew Tellijohn Staff Reporter > > > > > > St. Louis Park-based Granite City Food & Brewery > > closed this month on > > $5.6 million in financing that will help it double > > its restaurants in > > 2003. > > > > In January, the casual dining restaurant chain will > > break ground in > > West Des Moines, Iowa, on its fourth location. It is > > also negotiating > > on two more sites in the Midwest. > > > > Steve Wagenheim, Granite City's president and CEO, > > said revenue is > > projected to increase from $12 million this year to > > $30 million in > > 2004. He said, within three to five years, the > > company could be a $100 > > million chain extending westward from Ohio to South > > Dakota. > > > > "You've got to start one unit at a time, one market > > at a time," he > > said. "Our stores are doing really well. The concept > > has been really > > embraced." > > > > Granite City expects to open a few more sites in > > 2004 than in 2003 > > before aggressively ramping up expansion in 2005. > > > > Granite City raised the money through a private > > financing using > > Minneapolis-based Aethlon Capital as its agent. The > > new capital will be > > used to build the next several stores. After that, > > the company expects > > further expansion to be funded out of pocket. > > > > "The leaps are going to be pretty significant," said > > Wagenheim, a > > former Twin Cities restaurant consultant and > > licensee of the Champps > > Americana restaurant chain. > > > > Granite City opened its first restaurant in St. > > Cloud in 1999. It went > > public the next year and launched locations in > > Fargo, N.D., and Sioux > > Falls, S.D., shortly thereafter. The chain has grown > > by focusing on > > second-tier metropolitan areas. At some point, > > Wagenheim said, the Twin > > Cities will be on the expansion radar. > > > > "We're filling in the dots and Minneapolis is a part > > of it," he said. > > > > Restaurant industry observers praised Granite City > > for expanding > > cautiously. > > > > "They seem to understand the markets in which they > > are open," said > > Scott Hume, managing editor of Des Plaines, > > Ill.-based Restaurants and > > Institutions magazine. "They're growing slowly, > > which would seem wise > > in this market." > > > > Casual dining restaurants, especially ones that > > include bars, have done > > well in spite of difficult times, he added. > > > > Wagenheim acknowledges that the slowdown has > > affected the speed of > > Granite City's expansion plans. But he said he's > > looking forward to the > > future. "This is just a really fun and interesting > > time for the > > company." > > > > > > > > atellijohn(a)bizjournals.com | (612) 288-2102 > > > > © 2002 American City Business Journals Inc. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > >

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Re: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by allan.boyce＠usbank.com

Has anybody had any Granite City beer made from the mass-produced-wort-shipped-across-state-lines-by-tanker method yet? Is it any good? I'm guessing if Sherlock's went to that method of brewing, the 'built in customer base' would soon notice the difference from the Quality beer that Damien makes there now. And I'm not sure that Damien, being the skilled brewer he is, would want to stick around to "add yeast and stir". FWIW - Al "Will Holway" <brew987(a)yahoo.c To: "Marc Donnelly" <marc(a)targetadv.com>, mba(a)thebarn.com om> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing mba-bounce@theba rn.com 12/23/2002 01:26 PM I don't understand why he doesn't just turn Sherlock's into a Granite City if that is his aim. There is a built in customer base and a brewer. --- Marc Donnelly <marc(a)targetadv.com> wrote: > Isn't this Bill's venture? hum... > > > --------------- > from: > http://twincities.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2002/12/23/ > > story7.html > > > > Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing > Andrew Tellijohn Staff Reporter > > > St. Louis Park-based Granite City Food & Brewery > closed this month on > $5.6 million in financing that will help it double > its restaurants in > 2003. > > In January, the casual dining restaurant chain will > break ground in > West Des Moines, Iowa, on its fourth location. It is > also negotiating > on two more sites in the Midwest. > > Steve Wagenheim, Granite City's president and CEO, > said revenue is > projected to increase from $12 million this year to > $30 million in > 2004. He said, within three to five years, the > company could be a $100 > million chain extending westward from Ohio to South > Dakota. > > "You've got to start one unit at a time, one market > at a time," he > said. "Our stores are doing really well. The concept > has been really > embraced." > > Granite City expects to open a few more sites in > 2004 than in 2003 > before aggressively ramping up expansion in 2005. > > Granite City raised the money through a private > financing using > Minneapolis-based Aethlon Capital as its agent. The > new capital will be > used to build the next several stores. After that, > the company expects > further expansion to be funded out of pocket. > > "The leaps are going to be pretty significant," said > Wagenheim, a > former Twin Cities restaurant consultant and > licensee of the Champps > Americana restaurant chain. > > Granite City opened its first restaurant in St. > Cloud in 1999. It went > public the next year and launched locations in > Fargo, N.D., and Sioux > Falls, S.D., shortly thereafter. The chain has grown > by focusing on > second-tier metropolitan areas. At some point, > Wagenheim said, the Twin > Cities will be on the expansion radar. > > "We're filling in the dots and Minneapolis is a part > of it," he said. > > Restaurant industry observers praised Granite City > for expanding > cautiously. > > "They seem to understand the markets in which they > are open," said > Scott Hume, managing editor of Des Plaines, > Ill.-based Restaurants and > Institutions magazine. "They're growing slowly, > which would seem wise > in this market." > > Casual dining restaurants, especially ones that > include bars, have done > well in spite of difficult times, he added. > > Wagenheim acknowledges that the slowdown has > affected the speed of > Granite City's expansion plans. But he said he's > looking forward to the > future. "This is just a really fun and interesting > time for the > company." > > > > atellijohn(a)bizjournals.com | (612) 288-2102 > > © 2002 American City Business Journals Inc. > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Re: Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing

by Will Holway

I don't understand why he doesn't just turn Sherlock's into a Granite City if that is his aim. There is a built in customer base and a brewer. --- Marc Donnelly <marc(a)targetadv.com> wrote: > Isn't this Bill's venture? hum... > > > --------------- > from: > http://twincities.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2002/12/23/ > > story7.html > > > > Pub chain to double size, backed by $5.6M financing > Andrew Tellijohn � Staff Reporter > > > St. Louis Park-based Granite City Food & Brewery > closed this month on > $5.6 million in financing that will help it double > its restaurants in > 2003. > > In January, the casual dining restaurant chain will > break ground in > West Des Moines, Iowa, on its fourth location. It is > also negotiating > on two more sites in the Midwest. > > Steve Wagenheim, Granite City's president and CEO, > said revenue is > projected to increase from $12 million this year to > $30 million in > 2004. He said, within three to five years, the > company could be a $100 > million chain extending westward from Ohio to South > Dakota. > > "You've got to start one unit at a time, one market > at a time," he > said. "Our stores are doing really well. The concept > has been really > embraced." > > Granite City expects to open a few more sites in > 2004 than in 2003 > before aggressively ramping up expansion in 2005. > > Granite City raised the money through a private > financing using > Minneapolis-based Aethlon Capital as its agent. The > new capital will be > used to build the next several stores. After that, > the company expects > further expansion to be funded out of pocket. > > "The leaps are going to be pretty significant," said > Wagenheim, a > former Twin Cities restaurant consultant and > licensee of the Champps > Americana restaurant chain. > > Granite City opened its first restaurant in St. > Cloud in 1999. It went > public the next year and launched locations in > Fargo, N.D., and Sioux > Falls, S.D., shortly thereafter. The chain has grown > by focusing on > second-tier metropolitan areas. At some point, > Wagenheim said, the Twin > Cities will be on the expansion radar. > > "We're filling in the dots and Minneapolis is a part > of it," he said. > > Restaurant industry observers praised Granite City > for expanding > cautiously. > > "They seem to understand the markets in which they > are open," said > Scott Hume, managing editor of Des Plaines, > Ill.-based Restaurants and > Institutions magazine. "They're growing slowly, > which would seem wise > in this market." > > Casual dining restaurants, especially ones that > include bars, have done > well in spite of difficult times, he added. > > Wagenheim acknowledges that the slowdown has > affected the speed of > Granite City's expansion plans. But he said he's > looking forward to the > future. "This is just a really fun and interesting > time for the > company." > > > > atellijohn(a)bizjournals.com | (612) 288-2102 > > � 2002 American City Business Journals Inc. > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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by David H Berg

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:01:41 -0600 "Rolstad, David" <DRolstad(a)mjsk.com> writes: >. My hat is off to the organizers of the Autumn Brew Review and Winterfest who >are introducing the product to the community in what would appear to be some >good old fashion marketing. That is exactly the reason that we started the festivals. Getting an owner to spend money on advertising is like pulling teeth, and even if you do take out an ad, it is impossible to determine if it was cost effective. The Guild took money in the form of dues, and used that to market all the places. It seems to be helping a bit. >There should be more of this. Yes and no. You don't want to overload on festivals, and you need to make sure you are always putting your best foot forward. It's a lot of work to organize the ABR, and those of us who organize it already have full-time jobs. We start planning in January for next year. Hopefully the Food and Wine show will also be beneficial for our members. Believe me, the pavillion was not cheap. But, that's why we formed the Guild--to spend money on promotions. >The question is whether I go to Water Tower,Town Hall or Hops to buy the >Winterfest tickets. I hope you mean Great Waters instead of WT. Speaking of Winterfest, the tickets are flying out the door. I'd say more than half are sold already. David Berg President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild Head Brewer, Bandana Brewery http://www.mncraftbrew.org

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