For a transcript of Ted Lemon's (Littorai) extremely thought-provoking presentation to the recent Mornington Peninsula pinot noir convention, look here: http://blog.jjbuckley.com/2013/02/20/ted-lemon-on-noble-place-in-new-world-w inegrowing/ I would love to sit down with him over a couple of glasses of wine and find out what he means when he says we should not use Burgundy as a measuring stick - I think I disagree on that, although it certainly depends. How I might say something similar: when pinot diverges too far from the Burgundian model, we have a problem, although New World pinots are not better or less good based solely on how much they do or don't resemble Burgundy. Think Spring! Russ