MOstly an update:
From Lori:
We are in at Town Talk Diner for Thurs. May 15th. The res is for 10 people and no corkage.
The wine is
+Identifiable Varietals. One big guessing game!
Warren was kind enough to set this up for us-and Bill picked the wine! Thanks guys!
Contact Jim for who's going to be there.
Bill's wine wym is this: Bring things you feel are
good arch types of style and source. Sounds like fun!
Posting from todays NYTimes on Soave.
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:05:52 -0500
From: "Jim L. Ellingson" <jellings(a)me.umn.edu>
To: wine(a)thebarn.com
Subject: [wine] Got Wood, Town Talk
Looking to be at Town Talk this week.
Back up is Arezzo.
Vin du jour is in Bill's able hands.
Bill
Dave
Lori
Russ/Sue
Jim/Louise
Warren/Ruth
Betsy
Bob
I'll be off line until wedesday.
C,
J
May 14, 2008
Wines of The Times
Soave Challenges Its Easy Image
By ERIC ASIMOV
ON the face of it Soave would seem to be about as controversial as a carrot. It.s a white
wine, right? An Italian white, which to many people means a crisp, cold, characterless
quaffing wine for knocking back, not for savoring. Yet there we were, the wine panel,
completely divided over the merits of the 25 Soaves we had just tasted.
I had been looking forward to this tasting for a while. The conventional attitude, that
Soave was a synonym for insipid, was out of date, I felt, and needed to be re-evaluated.
In recent years a small cadre of producers in Soave territory, in the northeastern Italian
region of Veneto, had started to take the wine much more seriously. Instead of the bland
mass-produced white of the 1960s and .70s that Americans had become familiar with, these
producers were making delicious wines with a pronounced minerality that I had enjoyed
tremendously.
What was different? Instead of the large-scale farming techniques that had emphasized
quantity over quality, they had drastically reduced yields in the vineyards, resulting in
grapes with more character and intensity. They focused their efforts on the garganega
grape, the most interesting of the Soave blend, rather than on the dull trebbiano Toscano.
In fact, new rules for the Soave Classico appellation, which covers the best hillside
vineyards, prohibited the trebbiano Toscano and required that Soave Classico be at least
70 percent garganega, with the remaining 30 percent made up of pinot bianco, chardonnay or
trebbiano di Soave, the local name for verdicchio.
I.ve had some good Soaves in recent years, and I thought the tasting bore out my feeling
that Soave was a wine on the upswing. I found many well-made wines of strikingly different
styles. Some were steely and dry, not conceptually distant from the Soaves of memory yet
startlingly improved in quality. Our No. 1 wine, the 2006 Soave Classico from Monte Tondo,
is a good example of this type of wine. It.s 100 percent garganega, though, picked by hand
instead of by machine, and fermented in steel tanks. It.s a lovely wine, and a steal for
$12.
Other Soaves, like our No. 4 wine, the 2005 Soave Classico La Rocca from Pieropan, a rich,
golden wine with a fleshy texture, clearly show the effects of aging in oak barrels, a
technique not usually associated with Soave. By effect, I don.t mean the overbearing
aromas or flavors of vanilla and chocolate that typically come from new oak. I mean the
gentle effect of the microscopic amounts of air that penetrate the wood, which adds
complexity and richness to the texture of the wine.
To me, this was all to the good. Stylistic divisions in wine are often presented as
traditionalism versus modernism, and I regularly find myself on the traditionalist side
because modernism is often code for diminishing what makes a wine distinctive. But in the
case of Soave, I sensed no such division. Both the Monte Tondo and the Pieropan seemed to
me examples of enhanced Soaves, wines that were improved over what they might have been,
say, 25 years ago but that still retained their fundamental Soave character. To my
surprise, not everybody on the panel felt this way.
.I was really saddened by what we tasted,. said Fred Plotkin, who has written numerous
books on Italian culture as exemplified by its food, wine and music. Fred, who joined
Florence Fabricant and me for the tasting, termed the changes in Soave .the alleged
revival..
.The new point of view seems to be to mask the wine with weighty, heavy elements that are
not friendly with any of the food of the area,. he said. .I was shocked at how many of the
wines I didn.t like..
Needless to say, I disagreed with Fred. We did find some overbearing examples of Soave,
redolent of butter and caramel like bad New World chardonnays, and we rejected them. But
the wines I liked, whether of the leaner or richer variety, go wonderfully with food, at
least in my experience. One wine on which we disagreed was our No. 10, the 2005 Strele
Soave. Admittedly, this was an extreme wine in this tasting. It was oaky, which I would
generally not like in these wines, and oily in texture, yet it had a pronounced
minerality, with flavors of lemon and almonds that I felt made it focused and satisfying.
But Fred felt it tasted of sour cheese. I had no answer for that.
Florence and our second guest, David Lynch, the author with Joseph Bastianich of .Vino
Italiano: The Regional Wines of Italy. (Clarkson Potter, 2005), took something of a middle
ground in the debate. David said that while Soave should not be held to a sort of classic
ideal, the region was in a profound identity crisis. .What Soave should be, nobody knows,.
he said. And while Florence was not as disapproving as Fred she said too many of the wines
were burdened by heaviness.
These sorts of disagreements are an important reminder of how subjective the perception of
wine can be. Clearly, we were all expecting something different from these wines. Yet even
Fred and I found common ground on some favorites. Our No. 2, the 2005 Soave Classico Monte
Carbonare from Suavia, was intense, juicy and well balanced, while our No. 3, the 2004
Soave Classico from Pieropan, was rich, complex and delicious, and was Fred.s favorite, by
the way. And while we all felt that our No. 8 wine, the 2006 Classico from Inama, was
pleasing, we also agreed that two more expensive bottlings from Inama, one of the top
Soave names, were too hot and heavy.
One well-known name, Anselmi, was not in our tasting but is worth seeking out. Quite
simply, Roberto Anselmi, the proprietor, no longer uses the Soave designation because he
disagrees with the appellation rules.
Of our 10 favorites, seven cost $12 to $18, including our No. 1 wine, the Monte Tondo, at
$12. Most are inexpensive enough to warrant taking a chance to find out how you feel about
them.
Tasting Report: An Old Acquaintance That.s Grown Nuanced With Age
BEST VALUE
Monte Tondo Soave Classico 2006
$12
***
Light, lovely and threaded through with flavors of minerals, nuts, lemon and flowers.
(Importer: Clyde Thomas, New York)
Suavia Soave Classico Monte Carbonare 2005
$24
***
Deep, intense and juicy with an enticingly rich texture. (Vias Imports, New York)
Pieropan Soave Classico 2004
$26
***
Rich, honeyed and complex with aromas of flowers, anise, almonds and minerals. (Empson
& Company, Alexandria, Va.)
Pieropan Soave Classico La Rocca 2005
$36
** 1/2
Deep, intense and even richer than the .04 Pieropan; aromas of honeydew, flowers and
minerals. (Empson & Company)
Coffele Soave Classico Ca.Visco 2006
$18
**
Fresh, tangy and refreshing; cries out for seafood. (Bacchanal Wine Imports, New York)
Prà oave Classico 2006
$16
**
Rich and honeyed, with lemon, floral and mineral aromas. (Vinifera Imports, Ronkonkoma,
N.Y.)
Tedeschi Soave Classico Monte Tende 2005
$13
**
Steely and tart, with lingering flavors of lemon, flowers and nuts. (Dreyfus, Ashby &
Company, New York)
Inama Soave Classico 2006
$12
**
Creamy texture with fresh fruit and mineral flavors. (Inama U.S.A., Napa, Calif.)
Santi Soave Classico Monteforte 2006
$13
**
Creamy, floral and focused. (Frederick Wildman & Sons, New York)
Strele Soave 2005
$18
**
Rich, deep and controversial, with oily texture and flavors of minerals and lemon confit.
(Weygandt-Metzler, Unionville, Pa.)
WHAT THE STARS MEAN:
Ratings, from zero to four stars, reflect the panel.s reaction to the wines, which were
tasted with names and vintages concealed. The wines represent a selection generally
available in good retail shops and restaurants and on the Internet. Prices are those paid
in shops in the New York region.
Tasting Coordinator: Bernard Kirsch