OK, I work with a lot of Open Source (as in free) software on a daily basis. Now for fun there is open source beer. Take a look at http://www.voresoel.dk/main.php?id=70 -- Steve Piatz piatz(a)cray.com Cray Inc. 651-605-9049 1340 Mendota Heights Road cell: 651-428-1417 Mendota Heights, MN 55120