If I could obtain some of the herb they use in place of flavoring hops and brewed an Irish red ale (as they do) it sounds like it might be a match for the category 22 Spice/Herb/Vegetable Beer but I still wouldn't have an underlying beer style. > ---------- > From: Erik Nelson[SMTP:braumeister@mn.astound.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:06 PM > To: Crist, Jonathan > Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com > Subject: Re: where to Irish beers/Irish red ales fall in the BJCP > guidelines? > > At 02:00 PM 1/22/02 -0500, you wrote: > > Jonathan, > > Irish ale or Irish red ale do not fall into any of the guidelines. They > used to have them, but not many people made them so they were taken > off. That is what happened to the Scandinavian/Dutch Pilsner also > > Erik Nelson > > >I saw the posting on the Yahoo site about class #5 > > > >I have a few cans of Smithwick's and Kilkenny, and one precious bottle of > >Biddy Early Irish Red Ale. The Biddy Early may actually be an herb beer > >(they claim it to be the only Irish herb beer on their web site) > > > >Michael Jackson declared Biddy Early to be the best example of an Irish > Red > >Ale > > > >So which category do these fall into? I think when I tried to enter a few > >years back they directed me to use the Northern Brown ale as the closest > >match. If they match for week 5 I'll bring them as commercial examples >