28 May
2004
28 May
'04
2:44 p.m.
Al, Just a quick thank you for putting together such a well run contest and series of
events. This contest just keeps getting larger and larger every year. The prizes were
very nice. Two days after the event the scores were tallied, the sheets were returned and
the medals arrived!
I have already put the date for next years contest into the planning system and will work
my May events to fit around it.
The one thing I learned this year and should have remembered from previous contests is the
word enter. You can't win or find out anything out unless you try. You can disagree
or argue with the results but the feedback is always valuable. It was interesting to look
over the multitude of comments and contrast them with some of the folks doing the judging.
Some people are very sensitive to hops and mentioned I used too many. Other folks are at
the other end of the spectrum and mentioned I needed more. One comment suggested that I
use a little grain in my recipe to increase the malt character. Hmmmmm............
All in all, the judging was good. Points were a little scarce.
Look forward to next year.
Sincerely,
Rick Oftel
MHBA Member at Large
1 Jun
1 Jun
11:52 a.m.
I'd like to echo Rick "you've got to enter to win" idea.
I had 11 beers in the Mash-Out and managed to win with 3. One of my beers
scored a 21.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Oftel" <Rick.Oftel(a)toro.com>
To: <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com>
Cc: <mba(a)thebarn.com>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: Mashout
Al, Just a quick thank you for putting together such
a well run contest
and series of events. This contest just keeps getting larger and
larger
every year. The prizes were very nice. Two days after the event the scores
were tallied, the sheets were returned and the medals arrived!
I have already put the date for next years contest into the planning
system and
will work my May events to fit around it.
The one thing I learned this year and should have remembered from previous
contests
is the word enter. You can't win or find out anything out unless
you try. You can disagree or argue with the results but the feedback is
always valuable. It was interesting to look over the multitude of comments
and contrast them with some of the folks doing the judging. Some people are
very sensitive to hops and mentioned I used too many. Other folks are at
the other end of the spectrum and mentioned I needed more. One comment
suggested that I use a little grain in my recipe to increase the malt
character. Hmmmmm............
All in all, the judging was good. Points were a little scarce.
Look forward to next year.
Sincerely,
Rick Oftel
MHBA Member at Large
2 Jun
2 Jun
9:34 a.m.
It's not just numbers of entries, it's understanding judging and knowing
your own beers. I entered 4 and won 3 medals. The judges comments also
have to be read with an experienced eye to be able to improve your brewing.
Most comments are useful even though you may disagree with the judge. Sit
back with one of your entries and your scoresheet and taste it while reading
the comments.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com]On Behalf Of
Steve Fletty
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: Sphbc(a)sphbc.org
Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com
Subject: Re: Mashout
I'd like to echo Rick "you've got to enter to win" idea.
I had 11 beers in the Mash-Out and managed to win with 3. One of my beers
scored a 21.
1 Jun
1 Jun
12:43 p.m.
I concur! A comment of note on a mixed fruit mead with cinnamon. "too
complex" I used 4 fruits. They speculated I was "over reaching"
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com]On Behalf Of
Rick Oftel
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:44 PM
To: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com
Subject: Mashout
Al, Just a quick thank you for putting together such a well run
contest and series of events. This contest just keeps getting
larger and larger every year. The prizes were very nice. Two
days after the event the scores were tallied, the sheets were
returned and the medals arrived!
I have already put the date for next years contest into the
planning system and will work my May events to fit around it.
The one thing I learned this year and should have remembered from
previous contests is the word enter. You can't win or find out
anything out unless you try. You can disagree or argue with the
results but the feedback is always valuable. It was interesting
to look over the multitude of comments and contrast them with
some of the folks doing the judging. Some people are very
sensitive to hops and mentioned I used too many. Other folks are
at the other end of the spectrum and mentioned I needed more.
One comment suggested that I use a little grain in my recipe to
increase the malt character. Hmmmmm............
All in all, the judging was good. Points were a little scarce.
Look forward to next year.
Sincerely,
Rick Oftel
MHBA Member at Large
12:49 p.m.
What the heck do BJCP judges know anyway? ;-)
There is a bit of the 'luck of the draw" element in the judges you get in
any homebrew contest.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Moranz" <mmoranz(a)net-info.com>
To: "Rick Oftel" <Rick.Oftel(a)toro.com>; <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com>
Cc: <mba(a)thebarn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: Mashout
I concur! A comment of note on a mixed fruit mead
with cinnamon. "too
complex" I used 4 fruits. They speculated I was "over reaching"
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com]On Behalf Of
Rick Oftel
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:44 PM
To: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com
Subject: Mashout
Al, Just a quick thank you for putting together such a well run
contest and series of events. This contest just keeps getting
larger and larger every year. The prizes were very nice. Two
days after the event the scores were tallied, the sheets were
returned and the medals arrived!
I have already put the date for next years contest into the
planning system and will work my May events to fit around it.
The one thing I learned this year and should have remembered from
previous contests is the word enter. You can't win or find out
anything out unless you try. You can disagree or argue with the
results but the feedback is always valuable. It was interesting
to look over the multitude of comments and contrast them with
some of the folks doing the judging. Some people are very
sensitive to hops and mentioned I used too many. Other folks are
at the other end of the spectrum and mentioned I needed more.
One comment suggested that I use a little grain in my recipe to
increase the malt character. Hmmmmm............
All in all, the judging was good. Points were a little scarce.
Look forward to next year.
Sincerely,
Rick Oftel
MHBA Member at Large
2 Jun
2 Jun
2:31 p.m.
Judges do their best, just like in the NBA.
How else can the same entry get a 41 and first place in one contest and a
17 in the next contest? Could a bottle go that bad? Maybe.
At 12:49 PM 6/1/2004 -0500, Steve Fletty wrote:
What the heck do BJCP judges know anyway? ;-)
There is a bit of the 'luck of the draw" element in the judges you get in
any homebrew contest.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Moranz" <mmoranz(a)net-info.com>
To: "Rick Oftel" <Rick.Oftel(a)toro.com>; <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com>
Cc: <mba(a)thebarn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: Mashout
> I concur! A comment of note on a mixed fruit mead with cinnamon. "too
> complex" I used 4 fruits. They speculated I was "over reaching"
> Mike
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com]On Behalf Of
> > Rick Oftel
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:44 PM
> > To: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
> > Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com
> > Subject: Mashout
> >
> >
> > Al, Just a quick thank you for putting together such a well run
> > contest and series of events. This contest just keeps getting
> > larger and larger every year. The prizes were very nice. Two
> > days after the event the scores were tallied, the sheets were
> > returned and the medals arrived!
> >
> > I have already put the date for next years contest into the
> > planning system and will work my May events to fit around it.
> >
> > The one thing I learned this year and should have remembered from
> > previous contests is the word enter. You can't win or find out
> > anything out unless you try. You can disagree or argue with the
> > results but the feedback is always valuable. It was interesting
> > to look over the multitude of comments and contrast them with
> > some of the folks doing the judging. Some people are very
> > sensitive to hops and mentioned I used too many. Other folks are
> > at the other end of the spectrum and mentioned I needed more.
> > One comment suggested that I use a little grain in my recipe to
> > increase the malt character. Hmmmmm............
> >
> > All in all, the judging was good. Points were a little scarce.
> >
> > Look forward to next year.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Rick Oftel
> > MHBA Member at Large
> >
> >
> >
>
>
//Mike Behrendt
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