19 Nov
2003
19 Nov
'03
9:14 a.m.
Last weekend I brewed up an all grain Nut Brown Ale. After heating the water to 175
degrees I poured it into my 6 gal plastic lautertun bucket and wraped it in blankets to
save heat for one hour.
Yes, I did use the famous "Phil's Floating Phalse Bottom" however, learning
from a bad previous brew session (as we all know, Phil's floats and plugs up with
grain), this time I used a Muslin Grain Bag (As they say on the Dodge truck commercial
"SWEET!").
As the afternoon was passing too quickly, I decided to bypass the sparging and drain my
liquid back into my brew pot. The liquid was a great golden brown color.
My question is "What are the drawbacks in the beer when bypassing the sparging
stage?"
Thanks in advance!
Jim Voosen
Stillwater, Mn
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19 Nov
19 Nov
10:07 a.m.
Jim,
By skipping the sparge, you're leaving sugar behind in the mash. This
is unheard of to some brewers who feel they must squeeze every last
fermentable out of the mash. To others, its technique: add extra malt
to compensate for the lost sugar and minimize the sparge time.
Eitherway, you want to make sure you hit your target gravity and volume
numbers.
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Mike Valentiner, Minneapolis, Minnesota
On Nov 19, 2003, at 9:08 AM, jvoosen(a)usfamily.net wrote:
Last weekend I brewed up an all grain Nut Brown Ale.
After heating
the water to 175 degrees I poured it into my 6 gal plastic lautertun
bucket and wraped it in blankets to save heat for one hour.
Yes, I did use the famous "Phil's Floating Phalse Bottom" however,
learning from a bad previous brew session (as we all know, Phil's
floats and plugs up with grain), this time I used a Muslin Grain Bag
(As they say on the Dodge truck commercial "SWEET!").
As the afternoon was passing too quickly, I decided to bypass the
sparging and drain my liquid back into my brew pot. The liquid was a
great golden brown color.
My question is "What are the drawbacks in the beer when bypassing the
sparging stage?"
Thanks in advance!
Jim Voosen
Stillwater, Mn
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10:59 a.m.
Hi Jim,
I'm not sure what you mean, so I'll take a couple of stabs.
What was your ratio of strike water to grist? 1.5 qrts per
lb is typical... stiffer/drier and looser/wetter mashing
will slightly alter the sugar distribution in the wort (in theory).
A warmer sachrification rest (say 158^F) favors the production of
unfermentables. A low temp mash (say 140) should result in
a more fermentable wort. Stiff/loose also has an effect
on fermentability, but it is smaller than the temp effect.
Did you skip the vorlauf (sp)? That is the recirculation
of runnings through the mash bed until clear. I used to
skip the "recirculation" but a Siebel trained brewer convinced
me that clear runnings were worth the hassle. This also pushed
me back to a slotted copper pipe manifold (in a cooler) for mashing.
In my experience, the slotted pipe lauter tunn clears quicker/quickly.
The drawbock (nice slip there) The drawback of using, boiling
cloudy runoff is too much protein in the kettle and in
the brew. That can lead to "stability" and clarity issues
in the finished product.
Not all runnings are created equal. First runnings have lots
of color and extract. SG of 1.100 or higher is possible.
Later runnings are thinner, lighter. If you're trying to
make an "all grain" barley wine, you'll take just the first runnings.
(on a side note, adding some carmel or carapils to the mash
for character, you can use the 2nd runnings for a 2 penny beer.
E.g. the renfest brews. 45 lbs of malt yielded 6 gallons of 1.130
OG wort that became Old Bed Spinner. Adding some carmel and
sparging yieled 20+ gallons of 1.036 or so Bi'ah for the Renfest.)
I'm w/ Mike on the efficiency issue. It's a hopbby and grain is
cheap. Repeatability is another issue. I'd rather be repeatable
at 25 pts/lb than "efficient" at 28-32 pts per pound.
Cheers,
Jim
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:08:02AM -0600, jvoosen(a)usfamily.net wrote:
Last weekend I brewed up an all grain Nut Brown Ale.
After heating the water to 175 degrees I poured it into my 6 gal plastic lautertun bucket
and wraped it in blankets to save heat for one hour.
Yes, I did use the famous "Phil's Floating Phalse Bottom" however,
learning from a bad previous brew session (as we all know, Phil's floats and plugs up
with grain), this time I used a Muslin Grain Bag (As they say on the Dodge truck
commercial "SWEET!").
As the afternoon was passing too quickly, I decided to bypass the sparging and drain my
liquid back into my brew pot. The liquid was a great golden brown color.
My question is "What are the drawbacks in the beer when bypassing the sparging
stage?"
Thanks in advance!
Jim Voosen
Stillwater, Mn
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