15 Mar
2002
15 Mar
'02
4:08 p.m.
cops... overzealous? naw.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:40:11PM -0600, Jason Nelson wrote:
I think your loophole is right before your eyes. The
definition of beer keg is
a brewery-sealed container. It doesn't say anything about home-sealed or
unsealed containers. I highly doubt that any agents of peace or public safety
will be knocking on your door wanting to check your kegs anyway. They might if
they catch wind that you're serving to minors. If that is the case, then
you'll
have more to worry about than your keg's registration status. Leaving aside the
argument of whether this is an effective measure or not, the intent of this law
is fairly clear. This isn't to say that some overzealous young cop and/or
prosecutor might decide to make things difficult for an otherwise law-abiding
citizen.
Ryan Sinn <ryan(a)wizardtechnologies.net> on 03/15/2002 02:08:14 PM
To: mba(a)thebarn.com
cc: (bcc: Jason Nelson/MN/Unitedmail)
Subject: Re: Beer keg registration signed into law
not to mock MADD or anything, but according to their website Keg Registration
reduces/prevents Date Rape, STDS and Unplanned Pregnancies...
http://www.maddmn.org/keg.html
** WE SHOULD HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS YEARS AGO!! **
Seriously though... here's the actual bill text...
http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/departments/scr/billsumm/SF389.HTM
http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/getbill.pl?number=SF0389&ses…
What bothers me is Sec. 1 Subd. 1(a):
"Beer keg" means any brewery-sealed single container
that contains not less than four gallons of malt liquor.
Now they're talking 4gal not 7gal... the bill summary states 7gal, but the
actual bill text states 4gal... what's up with that? The only bill text I could
find is from Jan25th 2001, so maybe they've revised it... but the bill text
should have been updated.
The other thing that bothers me is Sec. 1 Subd. 6(c):
No person other than a wholesaler or retailer licensed
or authorized under this chapter to sell malt liquor may possess
a beer keg which does not bear the identification required under
subdivision 3.
Just my two cents... Time to call my reps again... or maybe it's time to run?
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 11:55:24AM -0800, LJ Vitt wrote:
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As far as the last campout:
Lindemans was what ever the europe uses as quarter barrels. (25l?)
That may have been the smallest key the law covers.
Celebrator was european half barrel (50l?)
Ron and Wayne had pins - under 6 gallons.
Ray had an 8 gallon Hoff Stevens keg.
There were numerous 5 gallon cornies.
That sounds like 3 soon to be illegal containers and the interclub campout.
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On the more serious side --
What does this mean for festivals like Autumn Brew Review?
Does Pioneer brewing in Wisconsin have to register their kegs
to come to Minnesota and pour beer at the festival?
To transport beer to the Great Taste of Midwest, do Minn
brewpubs have to register their kegs?
The loop hole might be - Kegs SOLD must be registered.
- Leo
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I really needed another mother to help keep track
of what I do :-)
Seriously, what happens with the various containers I have that
are 7 gallons or larger that just happen to be usable as
homebrew serving containers. I have one half barrel and two
quarter barrels plus a couple of 10 gallon cornies that aren't
registered and never will be - wonder what the penaly is? I
even have more than a few carboys that are 7 gallons or
larger.
I can just see the law enforcement folks checking the kegs'
registration at next summer's multiclub campout. I know those
kegs of Lindemanns and Celebrator at last summer's event were
over 7 gallons. Not sure about everyting on the beer engines,
most everything else was in 5 gallon cornies. I suppose the
law will help the sales of those 5 gallon sankey type cornies
since they are small enough to avoid registration :-)
We have a lot of stupid people around here that provide kegs
for their (underage) kids' parties but do we have to compensate
with stupid laws?
Where is our growler bill?
Betsy Kremser writes:
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Star Tribune
Beer keg registration signed into law
Published Mar 15, 2002
Beginning in August, all beer kegs sold in
Minnesota must be registered by liquor
stores in a new effort to keep alcohol away
from minors.
Gov. Jesse Ventura signed a bill Wednesday
Wednesday enacting the requirement, which
had been sought for years by Mothers
Against Drunk Driving and anti-youth-drinking
groups but blocked until recently by liquor
industry opposition.
The law will require liquor stores to file the
names and signatures of buyers of 7-gallon
and larger beer kegs and label them with
registration numbers, the retailer's name,
address and telephone number and the date
and time of purchase.
Police say they often break up "kegger"
parties of underage drinkers but cannot
trace who provided the beer. Keg tags will
discourage adults from the most common
means of furnishing alcohol to minors,
proponents say.
The bill, sponsored by Rep. Steve Dehler,
R-St. Joseph, was approved 114 to 20 by
the House last year and 60 to 0 by the
Senate last Friday.
-- Conrad deFiebre
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Mendota Heights, MN 55120