I look forward to a big stout and believe it will work very well with a fresh barrel.
After a grueling subjective sensory evaluation experiment, it was determined that an IPA
should not be aged in a newly drained bourbon barrel. The flavor of the bourbon
overwhelms the hoppy nature of an IPA. Second barrel use (immediately following stout
transfer and hot washing) would be ideal. Of course, this experiment did involve beer,
bourbon, and White Castle.
The information in this message is highly likely to be somewhat reliable and was approved
by me.
Rick
>> <sweiland(a)usfamily.net> 09/09/04 03:09PM
>>>
Hi Paul and everyone,
An Imp. Stout seems like a very good choice. Originality should not be overlooked, but
neither should drinkability.
If we want to do another style in a barrel, why not get a fresh, unused barrel?? Then we
could do a style like an IPA or a braggot.
For the RIS recipe, I tend to side with all-grain brewing, or at least a partial mash with
all specialty grains in the mash and simple light-colored liquid (or dry) malt extract to
build up specific gravity of the wort.
Cheers,
Steve
The choice is Russian Imperial Stout. The only
objection we could think
of is that it's not terribly original. We'd like to base the recipe on
Curt Stock's "She-Devil, Double D." (I'm not sure who the name refers
to, but I'd like to meet her.) This is one of Curt's few non-swill
beers. It's actually won a few medals. You can find it at:
http://www.mnbrewers.com/events/mashout/2003mashout.htm#367
OK, you can see the problem. It's about half extract, and this offends
the purity of certain members of the fellowship. Piatz is going to
formulate two other versions of the recipe in consultation with Curt.
One will be a mainly all-grain and one will be a pure extract recipe.
Likely, one or two extract batches may be brewed at Barley John's in
early November at Longballa's Teach a Friend to Brew event. Rick has
graciously agreed to brew a spare five gallons for topping off purposes.
Yes, we're going to do individual brewing, as before. Having 11 brewers
would be viewed as absurdly risky by many barrel aficionados, but we
figure we're so damn good that we can pull it off. It was fun to pool
all the different brews for the first barrel. We're going for
complexity.
I think I'm solid on the above information. Some of the evening is a
little hazy, and all I have is a few words Al scrawled on a napkin for
reference. There was some bitterness that the St. Paul people were all
indulging in amusements while the Minnesota people carried the
responsibility of almost five hours of evaluation and decisionmaking.
Anyway, here's what I remember, subject to correction:
-- We tried a wonderful Oud Bruin that was ruined by the addition of
whiskey, so we threw out that style and Flanders Red.
-- Braggot and Belgian Strong Dark seemed to be enhanced a bit by the
whiskey flavor.
-- We again confirmed that whiskey takes away from a Double IPA
(although we had a fairly lousy example that was brewed on the St. Paul
system). However, we're intrigued by a Double IPA that has more oak
character than whiskey character.
So, here's a rough schedule:
Fill barrel with Russian Imperial Stout in early December.
Consider obtaining another barrel in April to fill with a braggot.
(Trying to do two barrels at once would be a pain, we decided.)
Empty the RIS in July, rinse the barrel with boiling water, and
immediately fill with a Double IPA.
Empty the braggot in December. If the Double IPA is showing good
results, refill the second barrel with a Belgian Strong Dark.
That concludes the minutes of the meeting. Several attendees departed
for White Castle. Now, that's sacrifice!
Paul
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