8 Jun
2004
8 Jun
'04
8:08 a.m.
Rene-
Our prayers are with you and Bob. Thank you for keeping us informed.
- Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Cromer" <renecromer(a)pressenter.com>
To: "St. Paul Homebrewers Club - Public Mailing List" <Sphbc(a)sphbc.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SPHBC Public] Re: Mashout
Dear Beer Club Members,
Wanted to give you an update on Bob. He suffered a major setback Mon
AM
and is totally paralized on his R side and without
speech. He is able to
respond by moving his head and is awake. We will know more about his
prognosis by tommorrow. Thanks for your offers of help and concern. I
will
continue to pass along your well wishes. He is in
critical care and
unable
to have visitors. I am sure down the road he will
need all the visits he
can get, but for now he needs to rest. Thank you again.
Rene'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Piatz" <piatz(a)cray.com>
To: <Sphbc(a)sphbc.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [SPHBC Public] Re: Mashout
temptation
The CAMRA site is very hard to follow, I have to
admit that I have the
IPA book so I don't have to go to the site to find the recipe.
Rick Oftel writes:
>
> Steve, How do you navigate these sites? Everytime I try to find
anything
> like a recipe, I look at endless links, try
a few and give up. Any
ideas?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Piatz" <piatz(a)cray.com>
> To: <Sphbc(a)sphbc.org>
> Cc: <mmoranz(a)net-info.com>; <mba(a)thebarn.com>; <cstock(a)barr.com>;
> <fletty(a)umn.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 07:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPHBC Public] Re: Mashout
>
>
> > Rick,
> >
> > While I agree that the traditional IPA was made wih English
> > hops, I doubt the levels were as intense as you and I would
> > make them. Take a look at the CAMRA (start at
> > http://www.camra.org.uk/) book on IPA which reprints a number
> > of the old recipes from the commercial producers of the time
> > and then include the fact that it took nearly a year for the
> > beer to get to the drinkers in India and the beer was bitter
> > but the hop flavor and aroma were likely very low.
> >
> > My version of one of these didn't place in Mashout but is
> > advancing in the AHA Nationals. If I remember correctly the
> > boil (something like 1.129 OG) was 1.5 pounds of Goldings for
> > 85 minutes for approximately 7 gallons of wort so it was really
> > bitter. The original recipe had no late hop additions, no hop
> > back, and no dry hopping. Of course the spent hops were reused
> > to boil the 13 gallons of second runnings and that was also a
> > very hoppy beer was supposed to be a Scottish Ale but it was
> > more of an English Pale Ale.
> >
> > Rick Oftel writes:
> > >
> > > But in the traditional sense of the name, isn't the judges comment
> correct? I enjoy hoppy ales more than most but believe that a
traditional
> India Pale Ale should be made primarily from
English hop and malt
varieties
> and should be hopped to the gills in the:
kettle, hopback, grant, keg,
and
> in the glass.
> > >
> > > Rick Oftel
> > >
> > > >>> "Steve Fletty" <fletty(a)umn.edu> 06/02/04
09:56AM >>>
> > > My favorite scoresheet ever was the one where the judges told me
that
> > > > American hops were inappropiate in an IPA. I resited the
to
comments
> visit
> > > eash one of them and give them a nice Bell's Two Hearted or
Celebration
> Ale
> > > or Hop Devil or....
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Curt Stock" <cstock(a)barr.com>
> > > To: "Mike Moranz" <mmoranz(a)net-info.com>; "Steve
Fletty"
> <fletty(a)umn.edu>;
> > > <Sphbc(a)sphbc.org>
> > > Cc: <mba(a)thebarn.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Mashout
> > >
> > >
> > > Great comment Mike. That's a perfect way to get the most out of a
> > > scoresheet.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com] On
Behalf
> > > Of Mike Moranz
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:34 AM
> > > To: Steve Fletty; Sphbc(a)sphbc.org
> > > Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com
> > > Subject: RE: Mashout
> > >
> > >
> > > It's not just numbers of entries, it's understanding judging and
knowing
> > > > your own beers. I entered 4 and won 3 medals. The judges
also
> > > > have to be read with an experienced eye to be able to improve your
> > > > brewing. Most comments are useful even though you may disagree
with
the
--
Steve Piatz piatz(a)cray.com
Cray Inc. 651-605-9049
1340 Mendota Heights Road cell: 651-428-1417
Mendota Heights, MN 55120
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> > > judge. Sit back with one of your
entries and your scoresheet and
taste
> > > it while reading the comments.
Mike
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mba-bounce(a)thebarn.com [mailto:mba-bounce@thebarn.com]On
Behalf
> > > > Of Steve Fletty
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:52 AM
> > > > To: Sphbc(a)sphbc.org
> > > > Cc: mba(a)thebarn.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Mashout
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to echo Rick "you've got to enter to
win" idea.
> > > >
> > > > I had 11 beers in the Mash-Out and managed to win with 3. One of
my
> > beers scored a 21.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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