An interesting discussion on brewing water chemistry from the CBS
list. Last I knew, Mpls and St. Paul water came from the river/lakes,
is relatively soft at about 80 ppm hardness.
Suburban water typically comes from wells and so is moderately
hard at 300 to 400 ppm of hardness. Looks like Windy City
Water is somewhere in between.
Another advancte of CaCl and Gypsum is that they are buffering
agents. So, if you don't have a pH meter, you can't really muck
it up too bad like you can using acid.
Cheers,
Jim
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From: Ray Daniels <raydan(a)AMERITECH.NET>
Subject: Re: Chicago Water
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Nils and all,
Water chemistry can get plenty complicated but let's see if I can make some
simple statements that will generally hold true for our water.
1) You can make good beer in many styles without treating Chicago water,
espeically if you are doing extract or partial-mash brewing. Pale bitter
beers are the biggest exception, see #3 below.
2) If you are mashing, you will want to add some calcium as it aids in
bringing mash pH down to the proper level and is a necessary cofactor for
mash amylases. So, in practice I'd do the following:
a) For pale, hoppy beers this is definitely recommended and I would
use gypsum.
b) For malt-balanced beers I use calcium chloride (aids perception
of roundness, fullness of malt flavor).
c) With dark beers, pH adjustment is aided by the dark grains and
the natural calcium in
the water will supply some of the cofactor needs, so you can get
away with no Ca addition
in these cases, but personally, I still add some calcium
chloride.
3) Chicago water has more calcium carbonate (temporary hardness) than is
generally desireable for pale, bitter beers like Pilsner, IPA, even Kolsch.
Some mitigation of that is desireable to prevent a harsh, sometimes soapy
bitterness. As Chicago carbonate content levels are about 105-120 ppm and
acceptable levels for brewing are between 50 & 75 ppm, you can accomplish
these levels by diluting Chicago tap with distilled or RO water (which
contain no minerals). (And no, you don't want to use all distilled or RO,
you need the trace elements found in tap water--a 50/50 mix is good.)
Some will argue for acidification to control pH, but I have found that
calcium additions and dark grains work very well. Furthermore, I've had a
good number of over acidified beers that are so dry you need a glass of
water between pints.
All for me.
R
Ray Daniels
Director, Craft Beer Marketing
Brewers Association
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chicago Beer Society Home Brewer List
[mailto:CBS-HB@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU] On Behalf Of Conor McGrath
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:34 PM
To: CBS-HB(a)LISTSERV.UIC.EDU
Subject: Re: Chicago Water
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 03:25:13PM -0400 Nils Hanson said:
Besides a carbon filter does anyone do anything
special to
filter or
treat the water here in Chicago? I had a friend
visit and he has
recommend Gypsum and Calcium Chloride??
Chicago water is pretty good for brewing if you use a
charcoal filter. That's all I use and I've done dozens of
batches over the last five years. Of course, if you were
aiming to brew a particular regional beer and were trying to
match the water chemistry of that region you may want to add
some minerals. I've never found that necessary.
Did your friend have a reason for recommending water additions?
-Conor
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