[Fwd: Fw: National competition question]

Not sure if anyone else received a "certificate" from the AHA Nationals. I received a Bronze Certificate for cider and wondered why it wasn't listed in the current Zymurgy. I thought it was the same as third place. Seems they give out a lot of certificates based on your score being within specific ranges, not on overall placement. See the details down below. So, lots of people get Bronze and Silver certificates and aren't even close to getting a medal. The certificate is still nice to receive, don't take this as a complaint. It's just good information. *"Gary Glass" <Gary(a)aob.org>* 09/01/2004 03:55 PM To Michael Behrendt/Minneapolis/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject RE: National competition question I can't recall for the Cider category, but the top three beers could have earned Silver or Gold Certificates. Entries must score 30 or better to place in the first round of the competition. I know that certificates can be confusing. They are explained in the Rules & Regs, though after running this competition for the last 5 years I get the distinct impression that few entrants actually read all of the rules & regs and those who do probably have forgotten the part about the certificates by the time their score sheets back. You definitely missed out on a great time in Vegas. The conference will be in Baltimore next year, and it's already looking to be at least as good as this year's conference. Cheers! Gary Gary Glass, Project Coordinator Association of Brewers 888-U-CAN-BREW (303) 447-0816 x 121 gary(a)aob.org www.beertown.org -----Original Message-----* From:* Michael Behrendt* Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:59 AM* To:* Gary Glass* Subject:* RE: National competition question So, probably only entries that got a Gold Certificate moved up to the final 3 for medals. I would guess that none or very few of the people who entered the contest know that. Thanks for the explanation. I'll forward it to the Minnesota Homebrewers, St Paul Homebrewers, Prairie Home Companions and anyone else on our club's mailing list. And thanks for all the work of the competition. I'm just sorry that I couldn't get time off to go the Vegas. //Michael Behrendt *"Gary Glass" <Gary(a)aob.org>* 09/01/2004 12:10 PM To Michael Behrendt/Minneapolis/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject RE: National competition question Hi Michael, Congrats on earning a Bronze Certificate for your cider! The certificates are separate from the awards. Certificates are issued based on score. All entries scoring 25-29 receive Bronze Certificates, entries scoring 30-37 receive Silver Certificates, and entries scoring 38-50 receive Gold Certificates. Medals are awarded separately by the judges who chose the top three entries in each category. Cheers! Gary Gary Glass, Project Coordinator Association of Brewers 888-U-CAN-BREW (303) 447-0816 x 121 gary(a)aob.org www.beertown.org -----Original Message-----* From:* Michael Behrendt [mailto:Mike.Behrendt@us.ibm.com]* Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2004 8:33 AM* To:* American Homebrewers Association* Subject:* National competition question I received a "Bronze Certificate" in the mail for my Standard Cider and I'm very grateful for that. It totally amazed me. My question is about the listing in Zymurgy which doesn't include me in the listing on pages 67 and 68. Is there a difference between my certificate and getting a medal? I thought that cider was all done at one location and those results were the equivalent of the final. Thanks! //Michael Behrendt