Thanks Steve! That's reassuring.
- Al
"Steve
Fletty" To: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
<fletty(a)tc.um cc:
n.edu> Subject: Re: Converting a Chest Freezer for lagering
08/30/2002
12:53 PM
I've been using my chest freezer off and on for several years for
lagering...haven't run into problems or heard about this before.
Although I have heard that excessive moisture buildup can cause
them to rust out...I dunno...
> I have just installed a chest freezer that I want to convert for a
lagering
> fridge. I have a Johnson Controls thermostat that I plan to use with it,
> but I have read recently that running a chest freezer at less than 32 F.
in
> that on/off manner would burn out the freezer prematurely.
>
> What is your experience? Are there other options?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Al
>
>
>
Bob-
Thanks for the info! My thermostat is analog, I can only set it to ONE
temperature. How would your father-in-law's advice apply to that?
Thanks!
- Al
"Robert
Cromer" To: allan.boyce(a)usbank.com
<bcromer@attb cc:
i.com> Subject: Re: Converting a Chest Freezer for lagering
08/30/2002
01:47 PM
Al,
I called my father-in-law, a retired appliance repairman, and asked him.
He
says no problem. I have read that the only thing to avoid when using a
digital thermostat is to not set the temperature spread too small. i.e. do
not have the compressor turning on and off in high intervals. I use a
three
degree temperature spread on mine. Bob Cromer
----- Original Message -----
From: <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com>
To: <mba(a)thebarn.com>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: Converting a Chest Freezer for lagering
> I have just installed a chest freezer that I want to convert for a
lagering
> fridge. I have a Johnson Controls thermostat that I plan to use with it,
> but I have read recently that running a chest freezer at less than 32 F.
in
> that on/off manner would burn out the freezer prematurely.
>
> What is your experience? Are there other options?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Al
>
>
Personally, I believe that it would be better to convert it for serving
since you will be able to fit many batches of lager in the area.....
You won't burn out the device but you will have trouble with moisture
accumulations since the freezer box is just designed to freeze and
freeze. All moisture turns into wall ice until you defrost. The lower
duty cycle of the refrigerator requires that you constantly clean up the
melted mess or live with black crudites.
I would suggest that before you load up your unit, try a test freeze for
about 30 minutes. Note where the frost first gathers on the walls.
Get some brass door striping that is bent in a V, some small copper
tubing, and some strong silicon adhesive (not caulk).
Form one end of the weather strip around a small copper tube and solder
like a miniature gutter.
Check the gutter for leakage.
Glue the gutter to the wall of your freezer at a good angle and position
it below the lowest freeze point (if possible).
Route the copper tube into the freezer drain
Remove the outlet from the drain and insert a rubber plastic tube
De-level the freezer so anything that spills on the floor will naturally
migrate towards the drain.
Note: You don't need to cover each interior wall with this gutter but
the more gutters you use, the dryer your freezer will remain.
Our Freezerfridge has been working well for about 6 years. It has a
little interior corrosion that seem to be cause by paint scratches.
Oh and by the way, we also found out that it was a challenge to dispense
accurately carbonated beverages from our device so we drilled a hole
where the Freon tubes were not and plumbed in C02 from an outside tank.
The C02 moves through a multivalve manifold allowing the operator to
dispense small quantities of gas into the gas lines. Valves were
purchased from Superior.
Hope this helps. What are we brewing next?
Rick O (and the troublemakers)
>>> <allan.boyce(a)usbank.com> 08/30/02 12:27PM >>>
I have just installed a chest freezer that I want to convert for a
lagering
fridge. I have a Johnson Controls thermostat that I plan to use with
it,
but I have read recently that running a chest freezer at less than 32 F.
in
that on/off manner would burn out the freezer prematurely.
What is your experience? Are there other options?
Thanks!
- Al
I have just installed a chest freezer that I want to convert for a lagering
fridge. I have a Johnson Controls thermostat that I plan to use with it,
but I have read recently that running a chest freezer at less than 32 F. in
that on/off manner would burn out the freezer prematurely.
What is your experience? Are there other options?
Thanks!
- Al
Just noticed this in the September Brew Your Own
Winemaker Competiton, competition(a)winemakermag.com
sponsors include the National Honey Board
Has 51 categories of wines and meads
Includes:
traditional mead
fruit mead
herb and spice mead
Entry deadline is November 8, 2002
www.winemakermag.com/feature/195.html
--
Steve Piatz piatz(a)cray.com
Cray Inc. 651-605-9049
1340 Mendota Heights Road
Mendota Heights, MN 55120
I would be glad to organize a cider buy - and a apple pressing. I suspect
we are
back at WaterTower in early October. I could pick up the juice then.
As for a pressing - maybe mid-October (19th ?) I need to talk to the orchard.
Occasionally they have events too we would need to work around.
Let me know if folk are interested.
At 08:19 AM 8/28/02 -0500, Al Boyce wrote:
>Congrats Mark!
>
>On other business, are you going to organize a cider squeeze again this
>year? Any idea on the date?
>
>Thanks!
>
>- Al
Engineer, Gentleman, & Brewer,
Mark D. Glewwe
http://www.glewwe-castle.com/mark/
While I was at the State Fair I noticed a small sign near the wine display.
Len Jax is selling Minnesota grown Frontenac grapes for $1.00 a pound.
Apparently this year's crop is quite good and capable of making some above
average wine. (something like a Merlot) If you buy, tell them Tom Matell sent
you.
Why doesn't the MHBA get some beer judging at the State Fair?
Jim LaRocque
My fault, it had the word $info$ in it.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:04:54 -0500 (CDT) "Jim L. Ellingson"
<jellings(a)me.umn.edu> writes:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm not sure why this bounced, but it did.
>
> Also, it's time to buy your ABR Tix.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from owner-mba(a)thebarn.com -----
>
> To: mba(a)thebarn.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:48:20 -0500
> Subject: Old West Famous Amber Beer
>
> From: David H Berg <bergbrew(a)juno.com>
>
> As I was reading "Son of a Brewer" tonight, I came across the
> following:
>
> "Congratulations to the August Schell Brewing Company of New Ulm,
> Minnesota. I just received my first case of their praiseworthy Old
> West
> Famous Amber Beer."
>
>
> I guess that is your answer, Mike. I don't have the gentleman's
> email
> who posed the original question anymore...perhaps you could forward
> the
> info on.
>
>
>
> David Berg
> President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild
> Head Brewer, Water Tower Brewing Company
>
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Greetings,
I'm not sure why this bounced, but it did.
Also, it's time to buy your ABR Tix.
Cheers,
Jim
----- Forwarded message from owner-mba(a)thebarn.com -----
To: mba(a)thebarn.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:48:20 -0500
Subject: Old West Famous Amber Beer
From: David H Berg <bergbrew(a)juno.com>
As I was reading "Son of a Brewer" tonight, I came across the following:
"Congratulations to the August Schell Brewing Company of New Ulm,
Minnesota. I just received my first case of their praiseworthy Old West
Famous Amber Beer."
I guess that is your answer, Mike. I don't have the gentleman's email
who posed the original question anymore...perhaps you could forward the
info on.
David Berg
President, Minnesota Craft Brewer's Guild
Head Brewer, Water Tower Brewing Company
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